Lego
you have summed up the situation perfectly.
Jews are allowed to steal Palestinians' land. Palestinian' are not allowed to defend themselves from this invasion. If they shoot back Israelis are then allowed to ethnically cleanse the lands they have stolen.

Good on you lego. My god still loves you.

v dub and Singer must be appalled you have simplified things for us all. Well done. Obviously their propaganda has never been understood clearly by anyone especially the simpletons.

Dear Avw,

With respect you most certainly have not answered my question. You answered a rewrite of your own construction.

Here is what you posted;

“At the risk of repeating myself I’ll spell it out again: targeting civilians as Hamas have been doing repeatedly for decades is pure terrorism, and the most repulsive action any group can take. There can be no excuse for it, certainly not because you think some service personnel might possibly be hit. The IDF engagements are targeting militants and terror infrastructure and are designed to avoid civilian casualties. There is no doubt which is the least legitimate action.”

Here is what I asked;

Let us take away words like 'occupiers' and 'resistance fighters' and put the question directly.

Which is the least legitimate? Planting a bomb in a night club in Tel Aviv where the vast majority of those in attendance are of fighting age and have been militarily trained to engage Palestinians as opposed to dropping a 500lb bomb on the family home of a Hamas member?

Hi Steele,

Not really the right questions: does Israel have the right to exist ? Yes ? No ? Should Israelis be pushed into the sea ? Yes ? No ?

I don't support the building of settlements in the west Bank, as it happens. But I do think that, along with a multitude of other ethnic and religious groups across the Middle East, Israel has a right to exist. Hamas doesn't. Ergo, rockets. Ergo, Israeli retaliation. And so it will go.

The history of the Middle East, over the last few thousand years, has been one of migrations and invasions - the Arabs themselves burst out of south-central Arabia to dominate the entire region from Iraq across to Mauretania, and they certainly weren't the first to 'burst out' and dominate parts of the region.

Meanwhile, Yazidis and Christians, who have been in their regions for at least fifteen hundred years, invading nobody, ethnically-cleansing nobody, beheading and raping nobody, are being massacred and ethnically-cleansed. Yes ? No ? By the allies of Hamas - Yes ? No ?

Palestinians have the right to exist in Palestine. Israelis have the right to exist in Israel. Yazidis and Christians and Kurds and Turkomans in Iraq, Alawites and Druses and God-knows-who-else in Syria. To list all the ethnic groups across that region would take up all of my 350 words.

So live and let live. It might make a change in the Middle East.

Joe

Joe

We all agree with you about the right to exist.

Now go tell vdub and Singer to give the Palestinians back their stolen land, to allow access to the World for the Gazans and to allow refugees to return to their lands and homes.

That is the nub of today's problem.

As an aside the US have downgraded their military support for Israel. It is no longer automatic and that action has been supported not only by Obama but also congress. Both sides in the US congress support this.

The next US presidential election is going to be very interesting. No longer is their going to be blind endorsement of Israel by both sides. There is a huge backlash coming.

Israel stupidly lost far more than this latest war.

Photos of dead kids never help.

@Ima,

<<We all agree with you about [Israels] right to exist.>>

ALL Ima?

If you think that you are being led along by the nose.

I posed that question repeatedly to a fellow on another thread who presented himself as moderate and he refused to answer it --EVERYTIME. And I have a sneaking suspicion that your sidekick Steele maybe seeking to wipe Israel from the map as well.