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Dear one under god,

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You wrote :

« banjo/that mess\in irael has nothing/to do with religion
IT MAY/HAVE TAKEN ME..A WHILE\TO LEARN/WHAT SECULAR MEANS/but its clear...that secularity-ALONE/is causing the polarization[divide/conquer] »

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I think you are not looking in the right direction, one under god. You seem to be looking inward to your beliefs, not outward to reality.

I try to look in both directions and do my best to see through the veil of my own beliefs, prejudices and ignorance.

I know how difficult it is and do not pretend to succeed as I would like to but I aspire to the truth and never deny it, even if I sometimes decide to hide it.

I do not know if “that mess\in Israel has [anything] / to do with religion”. I think it probably has, at least to some extent, but I think that, more generally, it has to do with belief, ignorance, bigotry, racism, tribalism, nationalism, xenophobia and hate.

I understand belief as “confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof”. So far as the matter in hand is concerned, I see it as not being limited simply to religious dogma.

Belief never comes alone. It‘s a two-sided coin. On the other side of the coin, it engenders rejection, intolerance, bigotry and hate.

Personally, I try to keep my beliefs to a strict minimum.

It is hate which has led to the current hostilities between Israel and the Hamas.

Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. Because hate is believed to be long-lasting, it seems that many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a temporary emotional state.

Hate between Israel and the Hamas (which was created in 1987), has been going on for over a generation now, and has become an ingrained culture on both sides.

It will take a truly remarkable event and, no doubt, several generations to weed it out completely.

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« As the African Proverb says: Whoever walks fast, travels alone. Whoever walks far, walks in the company of others. »

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That’s a quotation from the Archbishop of Canterbury of the Church of England, Justin Welby.

Welby worked for 11 years in the oil industry, five of them for the French oil company Elf Aquitaine based in Paris. In 1984 he became treasurer of the oil exploration group Enterprise Oil PLC in London, where he was mainly concerned with West African and North Sea oil projects.

He retired from his executive position (and 6 figure salary) in 1989 and said that he sensed a calling from God to be ordained.

Welby was at first rejected for ordination by John Hughes, the Bishop of Kensington, who told him: "There is no place for you in the Church of England."

He was consecrated as a bishop at York Minster in 2011. He was introduced to the House of Lords in 2012, where he sits on the Lords Spiritual bench. He joined the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards in 2012.

Welby was seen as a possible candidate to be the next Archbishop of Canterbury. In 2012 the bookmakers suspended betting on his being appointed. That same year his appointment to the position was announced. In January 2013 Welby said that he had regarded it as "a joke" and "perfectly absurd" for him to be appointed Archbishop of Canterbury, because he had only been a bishop for a short time.

A year later Justin Welby seems to be still walking fast – but is he alone or in the company of others ?

http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/articles.php/5368/church-of-england-approves-women-bishops

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Hey ! It’s 14 July 2014. The 225th anniversary of the French revolution !

Here’s Tchaikovsky’s version of La Marseillaise :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9dHyTxYkI

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HAPPY BeAST-ILL DAy
banjo;NOTE..<<..I understand belief/as..“confidence in the truth>>

confidence../OF\..a truth?

or[belief]..;<<..existence of something/not
immediately susceptible..[AFFIRM ABLE/BY?]..to rigorous proof”.>>

FAITH;RIGOR?
PASSI0N/EXTREME..damm caps

<<>.So far as the matter/THING/or matter..<<>.in hand is concerned,..I see it as not being limited/simply to religious dogma.>>

MOST CERTAINLY
I HAVE FAITH/this chair holds/me/that the keyS I STRIKE/will become the post i make[i have no need to test the theory re 5 BOTTLE OF WATER KILLING ME[I JUST NEVER NEED WORRY ABOUT BEING THAT THIRSTY;SO i take the mundane;EVERYDay;common..OR INCIDENTAL..on FAITH

<<..Belief never comes alone...>>

MOST CERTAINly/damm caps..belief without fruit/works=dead

<<..It‘s a two-sided coin. On the other side of the coin, it engenders rejection, intolerance, bigotry and hate.>>

hang-on THERE/TOO Many instant/conclusions
FAITH..MORE LIKELY engenders affection rather THAT HATE[NEEDING FEAR FACTORS]

FAITH INCLUDES REJECTION ONLY TO THE EXTENT OF NO ACCEPTANCE
but basically faith more LEADS *..to yet further acceptances[Further derivative-faiths..[THAT EITHER weaken/or strengthen/faith=INTO..??

<<..Freud defined hate/as an ego state\>>
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=48

[beast-mind/REACTIVE;..<<that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness...>>

as well as prolong iTS JOYS[THINK LIKE A CAT/Playing;with/a\mouse

<<.Because hate is believed to be long-lasting>>

and faith is but fleeting
[or visa versa]//FOR ME faith last linger than hate
but then we so love hanging on-to our hates[but loose the fear/the hate coES.

<<it [HATE]..seems that many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude..>>

THEIR WRONG/HATE COMES Directly from fear
or from in-superiority/complexes/loosing out to a rival[you thought lesser/yet they 'cheated'..;got that rightfully yours[think like the big dog wanting the boNE

[especialy the one YOUR GNAWING-UPON]

<<>>or>>

tbctd..[hopefully]..god i willing
BUT THE FLESH NEEDS A TWEAK.

i hate/thesE LINKAGES
HATE-ATTITUDE..<<>..disposition>>

ie circumstance?
hopes/fear-dreams?
LIKELY REALITIES OR IMPOSABLE UN-REALITIES?

FIXED-ATitudes?..
UNHAPPY DISPOSITIONS?..<<.<< than a temporary emotional state.

<<..Hate between..a dead-created/statuted;fiction oF STATE;LEGAL ENTITY<<..Israel and the Hamas..>>..founded by right[of god/no less]
yet a secular [GOD-LESS]-state

STATES arE DEAD
JUST LABLES FOR THE..QUALITIES/ITS PEOPLE CLAIM/TO EMBODY;
NAMES;'gods-people/or SATANS minions[by theIR WORKS NOT WURDS ARE THEY REVEALED;reviled

NAMES CANT Emote;faith nor EXPRESS
THEIR RESEMBLING a quality[or lack-there/of]..an ATTITUDE
/OR AND FORM\OF ACTUAL AFFECTATION/DISPOSITION..like the living seving the multihtydra headed whore of state

[Because they are dead fictions of maN
[NO life;=nonliving=[satans fictions]..SANTAS CLAUSE

created..by men<<>>(in 1987)>>

both of whom\wERE JEWS..[THERE IS THE CLUE
ISRAEL MEDDLES/invades loots plunders and leaves
the mossad policy/is to form-opposition groups at the same time/as they know some will seek to oppose[THUS PLAY BOTH SIDES OFF AHGainst the other [finance both sides/but knowing at a key point/one will loose.

[THE SAME IS DONE/IN BUSINES [ie gambling on the STOCK-PRICE..going up/or\down/the winning bets WE KEEP HERE/ the loosinG BETS WE PUT HERE

anD WE OWN/CPONTROL THE WINNING BETS

AND here are your loosing bets
ITS CATCH 22/THE BANKO ALLWAYS WINS

THEY WILL no doudt be the first tribe to leave[earth..in-toto
[if we eveR FIND RICHER PICKINGS FOR THEM..;..IN OUTERSPACE/but their colonization/by secular stealth[yet claiming ALL THE cudoss-OF GODS PEOPLE

its just insanity[AND AS ITS A MaTTER THAT foolishly has sought to include god/i wiLl let got do hiS BIT/A I DO MINE

<<.It will take a truly remarkable event..>>

AND GODS NOT GOING TO BE SO EASY Deceived
satan wanted a freewill realm/this IS IT

let those with faith be comforted
though ye shalt hear of wars/and rumours of wars
ITS SATANS REALM/SATANS MEDIA SATAN\S INDUSTRY/and satandic rule
IT WILL NEVER BE FIXED[ITS not meant to/ITS MEANT.as a real means/TO STEP OUT THE WORKS OF faith

i know my spirit-eternal
death has no sting

Dear Yuyutsu,
I've realised that I've totally bungled my last posting to you by leaving out an important word, the NEGATION, 'not'. It was supposed to read:
"If your faith does NOT relate to this real world, then it is of no use or help to my situation."
I feel like a dummy for not reading my own writing carefully before posting.

Our faith, if it is going to be of benefit to anyone, should be relatable in the real world.

While I'm here, there is another thing that needs to be noted about your postings. More than once you've accused me of 'modernist thinking'. However, it is you that seems inclined to accepting evolution theory as an explanation for how life came to be. Evolution is the height of modernist thinking. It's only gained much popularity in the last couple of hundred years, roughly since the time of Darwin.