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Dear one under god,

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As I indicated previously, I think the conflict between Israel and the Hamas is partly due to the negative side (yin) of religion (or faith) but more broadly speaking, due to the negative side (yin) of belief.

Holy war is a negative consequence (unfortunately, not the only one) of religion or faith. Ignorance, bigotry, racism, tribalism, nationalism, xenophobia and hate are negative consequences of belief.

The ongoing conflict between Israel and the Hamas is only partly attributable to the worst form of religious intolerance, i.e., bigotry. As you indicated yourself, there’s more to it than that.

At the same time, one under god, you seem to have difficulty accepting the idea that there is a positive and negative side to everything, including religion (or faith).

But you who often posts here, on this forum, on demons, don’t you recognise that there is even a negative side to god - the devil, for example ? Don’t you recognise that even a god never comes alone. That even a god is a two sided coin with a yin and a yang ?

If not, there would be only goodness in the world ? But we all know that that is not so. There is at least as much wickedness as goodness. Isn’t there ?

And so it’s the same for religion. It’s just as good as it’s bad. The positive and negative weigh each other out in the natural law of unstable equilibrium, i.e., “a state of equilibrium in which a small disturbance will produce a large change” (Oxford English Dictionary).

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Dear Dan,

Whether Darwin's evolution theory is correct or not is merely a scientific question. Incidentally I think it is correct, but if it's not - then what's the big deal? It wouldn't change my life in any way.

When I "accuse" you (and 99.99% of us) of modernism, I am not referring to content, or to specific beliefs about this physical universe, but to the weight, or the importance attributed to it.

Had science proved some fantastic theory, for example that this world is born of an egg laid by alchemists of the 7th dimension, or that our bodies started by soap-bubbles from the rays of the moon, it would have zero effect on my faith - I would just shrug it off with "so what, what's the big deal?". Why do people need to waste their time on this kind of vanity, which is just a form of entertainment? What has this to do with our relationship with God?

Your own faith in the teachings of the apostles and prophets have not been disturbed by science - and I congratulate you for this, it is admirable, but millions upon millions of people were not as fortunate as yourself. Sadly they lost their faith and direction as a result of the clash between the factual interpretation of the bible and science.

Some football fans, when their team wins shout "There is a God!": it is then that I get very worried about their predicament once their team loses, which is only a matter of time.

BADJEHOVA/QUote..<<..you seem..to have.\difficulty accepting the idea that there is a positive..and negative side to everything,/including religion (or faith).>>

mate/im a persimiST;..i never been surprised..when thingS GO WRONG.[but often going wrong/was the best\thING THAT HAppned.

[i know the UPPER/lowercase thing..is peEVING ME OFF TOo..[BUT IM NEAR OVER\THE need to post/thus it shall be..as it be..TILL THEY GET RID OF ME.

<<..But you who often posts here,..on this forum,..on demons, don’t you recognise..that there is even..a negative side to god>>

I HOLD/..THE WORLD As IMPERFECT...for me\thats beyond disputE;..IM SO IMPERFECT;..I FIND FLAW..WITH ANYTHING;..but often need..ignore/the sputum\bile..to get through

in the bible/THEY talk\oF ONE;'greater/tHAN the baptiser'...'the LEAST..who yet..is greater/thaN JOHN..[SATAN..;ITS HIS REALM]

<<..the devil,,>>,[my GUIDES ASSURE ME..SATAN;ISNT..IN HELL..[OTHER guides advise he\isnt/..in heaven..[although judas.;has fiNALLY forgiven..himself]

anyhow..;..tHE POINT BEING..IM in agreement with ..'satan'..[the LORD OF THIS REALM]..WHEN I SEE/.those of the love of brother[ie caLLED OF CHRIST/TO;LOVE OTHER..yet..[FIGHTING ENDLESS MORALIZING AND IMMORAL ACTS OF Beastly war..and KILLING Billions...RESENTMENT/WE-are;taking..advantage;of`gods..nurture..nature.

mate i feel..like a house guest..in tHIS..[SATANS]..REALM
THERE IS NOTHING IM INTO HERE;..[BUT/WE..NEED-PASS BY;HERE/TO..GET THERE]..even GENERAL-blogging/is more anNoying than healing...but i must play..outthe MORTAL-GAME..AS LONG AS Im neededtO PLAY THIS MISERABLE REALITY OUT,.

<<..for example/Don’t you recognise
that even a god..never comes alone>>..ONLY/he;knows..'HOW..alone'..al-ONE..CAn-be.

GOD NEVer goes anywhere..[[he is omnipresent][ALL-READY/THERE...
yet where god is life lives..[its as simple as that..;THAT YE DO TO THE LEAST/living..;WE DID TO GOD.

<<...That even a god/is a two sided..coin with a yin and a yang ?>>..

YOU ARE MORE BOOK-LEARNED;THAN I
BUT IM..GOING WITH you dont know..'god'.
[YET We/know..he..'gnosis'..;..knows you]

IN ENGLISH..GOOD\AND/GOD..CAN BE LOOKED At as simulie/even a familiar abbreviation[OF THE Good embodied in grace/and\mercy.[love/light/laughter/LOGIC;life]

god is much like..a flow/of ELECTRICITY/but..by ozmosis.
AS LIVING ENERGy..changes..'state'..but im going over old grOUND

there is one thing/that MUST BE HELD SACRED..;that all living lives..;but by gods grace/mercy..THAT GOD ALONE LOVES EVERYONE..EVEN THE MOST VILE;

[HE DIDNt abuse SATAN..AT JOBS LOT.[HE SUSTAINS..TO LIVE THE MOST VILE CRITTERS/none..but a mothER..[OR THE FATher\..can love.

there may be many pretenders
but when..you MEET THE HOLY-Spirit
/its just pure love.[of course alt-theo=lord*satan../SING*CATALI\the sum.

NOTE/ERROR..[sing*catali..was acTUALLY WRITTEN/AS CAT*Alising][karmicLY/commical]

post/limits[suck]..CTD[12/HOURS;AGO]

''the godless..
waging..unholy war on BELIEVERS..THIS cOmes/FROM\NOT KNOWING that/THE GOOD of god../is inherent/ever present..IN ALL OF US..COLLECTIVEL..we=me..;in god alone
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[is one\of the reason's..the demons hate us so;..
[HOW CAN\WE..CLAIM TO/KNOW..him all goOd\..yet/deny..him of grace/MERCY.

but..then/re/sin..;juDGING..OTHERS\WRONGLY..*IS THE WORST SIN...
near/as bad\as leading others to..sin..[everything..has its karma;..blowback/ACTION~RE-ACTION]

/<<..There\is/at least..as much/wickedness\..as goodness.?>>

YES /I FEEL\THEre..is..[but..thats..the big-clue]
its..iN THE FINEST-KARMIC BALANCE*..ALL THE Time.\
think/of the\exact/distance/temps/length/of DAY..FREQUENCY/OF weather changes..NATURE..iS MORE like-nurture..IN ROBBING PAUL...YOU INEVITABLY ROB PETER.

[ive noted/that...EVERY~work/i did..regardless\of intention
was BOTH..GOOD/BAD;..ITS SEEMS..A FIRM RULE[LAW?]..IN SATANS-REALM

<<..The positive..and negative..weigh/eachother out>>..
go..ahead..just try..it
lol..i HAVE ..mANY TIMES
[ASK FOR/TEN THINGS\GET..the/6/YOU REALLY NEEDED..3 you never-thought to ask]

there can-BE NO//PROLONGED-goodness..in the world..that
misses..what satans realm;is here for..[QUICKENING]

<<..But we\all knowthat that i..s not so.>>
we presumed.tO JUDGE TO EARLY/AND TOO MUCH.
<<..There is\at least.as much wickedness as..goodness....?>>

just in me;..i know/you speak TRUTH.
THAT SAID/I KNOW..'PERFECT'..[BU.. WOuld
never curSE\THEM WITH..informing..them=OF/THE ERROR.

i stopped/SECOND-GUESSING..[<<..as good\as it’s bad...The positive and negative..weigh each other out>>..as intended.[satans-realm;is working.]

<<..There is..at least..as much wickedness as goodness.>>

YES THEre is..[but thats the big clue]
its iN..THE KARMIC BALANCE*..ALL THE Time.

[ive noted/that EVERY~work/i did regardless of intention was BOTH GOOD/BAD;ITS SEEMS A FIRM RULE[LAW?]..IN SATANS REALM

there can/BE NO//PROLONGED- goodness in
the world ..that mises what satans realm..;is here for..[QUICKENING]

<<..But we all know that that is not so.>>
we presumed tO JUDGE TO EARLY/AND TOO MUCH.
<<..There is at least as much wickedness as goodness. Isn’t there ?>>

just in me; i know you speak TRUTH.
THAT SAID/I KNOW..'PERFECT'..[BUT WOuld never curSE THEM WITH..informing them//=OF THE ERROR.

i stop/SECOND-GUESSING..[<<..as good as it’s bad...The positive and negative weigh each other out>>..as inteNDED.[satans realm;is working.]..DOING what god set it up to do..[a place were god isnt so all pervading/just be cautious/those knowing god=good/DISLIKE US TAKING ADVANTAGE/OF\HIS GOOD NATURE...

i give-up/post/limits/stck-keys/editing-it/into..size;
its as easy/as..to write/but then..it..wont post[duplicates/gets double-posted..aaarggggg.

Yuyutsu,
You ask, what do theories of origins have to do with our relationship with God? For you, it doesn't seem a concern. To some extent I agree, we should focus on 'The Rock of Ages', rather than the ages of rocks.

However, for millions of others, it obviously is a concern. As you've noted yourself the numbers whose faith has fallen away in the wake of Darwin's theorising. Considering God spelt out in quite some detail life's origins, his explanation matters to perhaps anyone who wonders whether God is capable of telling the truth. If God can't be relied upon for explaining our history, why should we rely on him for faith and morality, even our eternal destiny?

To insert a discontinuity between the physical and the spiritual is artificial. While God is transcendent and the spiritual very important, the physical world is also important. The central fact of the New Testament is the resurrection of Jesus' body, a very physical event. The disciples pointed to the empty tomb as evidence. Jesus said to his disciples to examine his body to verify that it was indeed himself resurrected. Paul taught that if Jesus was not resurrected physically, then our faith is futile.

Christ's sacrifice was for mankind's sin and punishment. The meaning of sin relates to the original couple, Adam and Eve. Paul taught of the connection between Christ's death and Adam's sin. Just as in Adam we all die, in Christ we will be given new life. Both form part of history and give a meaningful basis for the Gospel message.

Death entered the human race at a point in time. I don't know why you say history is a modern concept. The Jews took careful note of the dates of their ancestors births and deaths from the earliest times. See Genesis chapter 5 and elsewhere.

Where I come from, facts are the basis for truth. The Scriptures are fully concerned with physical and historical facts.

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Dear one under god,

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You wrote :

« i give-up/post/limits/stck-keys/editing-it/into..size;
its as easy/as..to write/but then..it..wont post[duplicates/gets double-posted..aaarggggg. »
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Don’t worry, one under god, two posts are better than none, even if it is the same one.

I appreciate your enlightened and measured response.

Thank you …

And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worthwhile,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”—
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”

(T.S.Eliot, The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock)


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