Onya Spindoc.

I am sure that Geoff of Perth, Emporer Julainne and David G all think that "The X Files" are a documentary. And as for Arjay, even his dog doesn't like him.

Shadowmonster, spindog, PullyerLego, LoudmouthPlus, Under One Clod, Individious, etc, admit that you just don't cut it.

Little Boys shouldn't try to mix it with the BIG BOYS. It can only end in tears and skinned knees.

Go back to Mummy now and she'll wipe your noses and change your nappies!

Cheers!

DavidGeek,

Good to see you departing suitably whipped. We don't need neo nazis here.

Should Australia be willing to assist the US in a Coalition on Syria?

Obama has had to delay a decision to teach Assad not to play with chemical weapons until Obama has more US political support in the form of a vote in Congress from 10 September (Australian time).

Obama also needs more support from other countries to form a Coalition. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/30/the-five-big-points-from-john-kerrys-speech-on-syria/

Such a Coalition is iffy given:

- the UK voted itself out.

- France wants to await the results the UN inspection first (which may take two weeks).

The US may call on Australia, Canada, Germany and other NATO countries in Europe to be part of the Coalition.

We have an excuse to delay saying yes/no until after 7 September.

Should Australia join such a Coalition?

OHH..i thought..we were finished

so..A Guide..To 30 Years..Of U.S. Military Strikes..Against Other Nations..as ordered..by the last five U.S. presidents..and the degree of international support...behind the actions.

http://www.orrazz.com/2013/08/a-guide-to-30-years-of-us-military.html
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/08/31/226867-the-united-states-of-america-stands-exposed-in-the-eyes-of-the-world/

Syrians..Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels..Behind Chemical Attack
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

Rebels/local residents..in Ghouta..accuse Sultan of providing chemical weapons..to an al-Qaida/linked rebel group.
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_31/Saudi-Prince-Bandar-delivered-Israeli-chemicals-to-Syrian-terrorists-Official-7578/

Skull..&*Bones..John Kerry/‘fails’ to provide..key evidence/in Syria
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/31/un-chemical-weapons-experts-pull-out-syria/

The most..infamous operation..was STUXNET,..intended to wreck /ran's nuclear power/fuel rod/processing plant,;;which escaped into the world..causing damage to factories..all over the globe,

and may even..have been
a contributing/factor..to the melt-down..at Fukushima.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/pview/2013/08/31/us-spy-agencies-mounted-231-offensive-cyber-operations-in-2011-documents-show.html

Of course,..every time....such a..US hacking attack/was detected, ABCNNBBCBSFOX were..always quick..to suggest..that it was Chinese..or Iranian hackers

Where did the defeat..of David Cameron’s..attempt to drag the UK..into an attack on Syria..come from?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-syria-war-is-another-banker-war-protest-it/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BeYxqHXE-I
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/cameron-and-the-crisis-of-the-project-for-the-new-american-century

And what..does it tell us..about imperial power today?
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2013/08/putin-to-obama-present-your-evidence.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy6i1CfXTzE

yesterday..Kerry said,.."We know*..for three days*!*
..*before the attack[that]..the Syrian regime's..chemical weapons personnel..were on the ground..in the area making preparations...for the attack".

IF so..?..Then why didn't..US do something*..to stop it?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/30/government-assessment-syrian-government-s-use-chemical-weapons-august-21

Why didn't they..call the UNSC?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/war-within-72-hours-the-world-understands-that-the-american-people-are-being-zombified/

Why didn't they..call Russia..to stop it?

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/time-choosing/2013/aug/30/obamas-shameless-hypocrisy-executive-war-powers/

Why didn't they..issue a warning..*to the Syrian people?

http://www.infowars.com/america-totally-discredited/
The British government..said yesterday ..they were surprised
with what Kerry said..because they got no/advance knowledge..of what he said yesterday.

Kerry told..some other..outright lies
in his..speech yesterday,..[fake photos]
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_31/USs-Kerry-caught-using-fake-photos-to-fuel-Syrian-conflict-6127/

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-on-press-tv-president-obama-is-confused-about-p.html

The Washington Post..is trying to use
Edward Snowden's name..to re-sell the lie.that Obama got Osama.

But..if that were true,
why was it necessary..to flood the internet..with obviously faked photographs?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/howthefakewasmade.jpg

Common sense..says
if you have real pictures..of the real dead bin Laden,
you don't..*risk using fakes...US Senator Scott Brown..confirmed that the above..*was the image..*he was shown..as part of an official US government briefing..*to the Senate..Armed Services Committee.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/galleryoffakebinladens.php

The real..Osama bin Laden...died in late 2001.
The funeral..was reported..in the foreign press.
Benazhir Bhutto..confirmed he was dead..shortly before her own assassination.

Even FOX News..reported bin Laden..was dead,
then retracted..the story.

If this forum is representative of the Australian public - it seems a slight majority of Australians would not agree that Western military involvement in Syria is warranted.

Looks like the publics and many politicians of the UK, US and France are insufficiently convinced of a need to strike Syria. Obama is waiting for Congress to decide after 9 September and the French Government has decided to wait for the CW inspectors findings - taking 2 to 4 weeks.

The goal of "punishing Assad" is one thing but the problem remains - How to practically use military force to make a difference? to actually reduce the risk that chemical weapons will be used again?

I'm assuming (today anyway) Obama is letting the heat of the issue subside so the US won't be expected to do anything.

Pete