On topics like this one, I'm never sure whether Fruitcake International is extreme right-wing isolationist (CEC, Aryans, white supremacists, etc.) or extreme pseudo-left pro-Russian apologists (i.e. like some Greens and supporters of the old CPA and SPA). So one has to ignore most comments, as if walking through a minefield, and press on.

The facts:

* somebody used chemical weapons in Syria in the past week;

* the Syrian regime stopped any UN inspection for five or six days, and even then their vehicles came under sniper fire;

* ergo, the Syrian regime used chemical weapons on its own people, which won't worry most of those extreme right- and left-wingers, since Assad is anti-US/anti-Obama, and after all, little people are expendable;

* the US (and its allies) are not so stupid as to contemplate actual boots-on-the-ground intervention;

* in order to pull Assad's regime sort of into line, so that they do not use such weapons again, the US will send in high-precision weapons like Cruise missiles, to destroy runways, helicopter hangars and repair sheds, control towers, radar systems and perhaps specific military-oriented port facilities. i.e. they will degrade the fascist regime's capacity to wage war, but not by pumping yet more arms into the field;

* maybe, simultaneously, the US will send a few Cruise missiles into some of the al-Qa'ida bases, al-Nusra, etc., while they are at it. I certainly hope so.

The task is how to boost the democratic forces while degrading the various fascist forces, those of Assad and those of al-Nusra.

It's certainly going to be a bumpy ride. But one does not need to imagine conspiracies of invasion and occupation, that's never going to happen. Remove the ideological blinkers, please.

Joe
www.firstsources.info

"It's certainly going to be a bumpy ride," says Loudmouth! That will become the understatement of the millennium.

The disappointing part is Rudd's servile supporting of the U.S., the world's major warmonger. He is a Christian, isn't he?

He goes to Church each Sunday and is told about 'love they neighbor' and 'thou shall not kill'! Doesn't make much impression on him, does it? Or Obama. Or Cameron.

Ah well, just make sure you kiss your kids each night and enjoy the time you have left with them!

I would propose the same solution as I proposed to 911 that being, engage the services of 100 hot shot mercenaries, pay them one million each now, with a promise of another two million each when they deliver the heads of the leaders of the group/s who instigated the chemical attacks.

Best case, it would cost three hundred million,Plus costs, without loss of any of our armed forces.

Worst case, it would cost one hundred million and we still have the option of military action.

If they instigate military action again, I would suggest the lessons from Iraq and Afganistan have not been learned from.

I say this because had they done this, they would have had both Husain and Bin Lardin within a few months and saved trillions of dollars and thousands of lives from all parties.

Furthermore, given the way that Bin Ladin was eventually captured and killed, it would suggest that this way wouldnhave worked.

Hi David,

From your last sentence, I'm assuming that you think that Iran will use nuclear weapons if the US sends in cruise missiles. Do you think the Yanks - after all their idiotic mistakes in Iraq and Afghanistan - haven't taken that into account ?

What's the bet that any intervention on the US' part will be extremely focussed, very hard-hitting but not indiscriminate, over in a few hours ?

Let's see :)

Joe

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-Arabia-if-west-attacks-Syria/

Vladmir Putin is not messing around. He said there would be no more Libyas and would not tolerate an attack on Syria. There is no conclusive proof who used the Sarin gas. The USA Banking Military Industrial Complex finds countries to liberate who refuse to be slaves to their imperialism.

Why would Assad kill his own people and invite an attack from his enemies? It would make more sense to gas the rebels.

An attack on Syria will kill far more civilians than those who were gassed. So the logic is to liberate Syria by destroying it. Total lies
by our Western War Mongers.

Have to agree with loudmouth. Besides, after all the civilian deaths/genocide, doing nothing is no longer an option!
Rhrosty.