4].Knowledge..can also/be..misinterpreted..as/a..means of..external possession...
[modifiers..of how..things/events/concept./.are perceived]

..Here,..the..[knowledge]..content..is not..physical,
and/the..underlying_fallacy..is more*likely/to..be the..confusion of/mind..and..the..will..initiated..via brain.

The/attempt..to unite..non-physical.content
with..physical/attributes..is illustrated..by/statements..like..“the/thirst..for knowledge.”

(No Helen,..this is NOT..what..the “thirst”..in the/Bible means.
The term..was used..only because of man’s..limited comprehension,..at that time..
and is/probably..better dropped...as..it..may miss-direct..from..the lesson)

<<..The..fallacious/fixated/obsessive/abusive..use/of knowledge
can..result/in..several errors,

including:
a...The idea..that..knowledge..will make.the individual..more attractive..to others...This is/a..possession-[obsessive/possessive-fallacy.]..via a perceived..lack.

b...The idea..that/knowledge..will*.make/the individual..invulnerable. This..is the..reaction/formulation..against..the underlying/fear..of vulnerability.

c...The idea..that knowledge..will make/the..individual worthy.
This..is largely..symptomatic/pathetic.

Both you..and B...should consider type 4)
very carefully...Like all these fallacies,..it/contains..a denial mechanism,..which swings..into operation..only..as the..fear increases,..thus/canceling-out..the error temporarily,..but seriously impairing..efficiency.

Thus,..you claim..you can’t..read,
and B...claims that/he can’t.speak...Note that depression
is.a..real risk here,..for a Child of God..should never/REDUCE his efficiency..in ANY way...by feeding falsity.

depression..comes/from..a peculiar.error
[material/ergo/ego..pseudo-solution]..which reads:..faulsity..A Child..of God..is efficient./I am/not efficient...Therefore,..I am..not..a Child..of God

This leads..to neurotic/resignation,
and this..is a state..which merely..INCREASES..the depressive falsity.

The..corresponding/denial-mechanism..for..1)[subjective..possesion
is..the sense of..PHYSICAL/inability,..or..useless/helpless/IMPOTENCE.

The..denial mechanism..for 2)[objective-possession]..is often moral-bankruptcy...Collectors..of things/trophies/honors/titles..often
drive..themselves..well/beyond..their financial-means.. in/an..attempt to..force..[drive away]..possession-discontinuance.

If..this idea/of..cessation..of investment..by/objectiveposesion..cannot/be tolerated,..
a strange compromise..involving..BOTH..insatiable possessiveness..and insatiable throwing-away..(bankruptcy)..[over/compensated avoidance]..may..negate..the will..

[or set of the drive..to..re-fill/..the perceived..artifice..of lack of]

find..the middle-path

<<Defenses..aimed at protecting/preserving..(or retaining)..error
are..particularly hard.to undo,..because/they..introduce second-order misperceptions..which obscure/the underlying..errors..still/further.

The pseudo-corrective..mechanism..of..point-three
is apt..to..be/more varied because..of the/more..intrusive/inclusive-nature..of the error,..which has already..been mentioned.

Some..of/the..possibilities.are listed below:
a.One aspect.of the possession/possessed..conflict
can/be..raised to..pre-dominance...If/this is..attempted..in connection with..possessing,..it leads to..the paranoid res-solution.

The..underlying component..of..“being possessed”..by outer forces..is retained..in the..“persecution”..fantasies,complexes..which are generally..co-commitments.

b.If..being possessed”..is brought..in-to..ascendance,
a state..of some/sort..of possession/by external forces results,..but NOT with/a major..emphasis..on attacking others.certainties.

Attack BY/others..becomes the more..obvious-component.
In..the more..virulent-forms,..there is a/sense of..being possessed by demons,..and unless there..is vacillation..with a),..a catatonic
stasis..solution..is more likely..than a paranoid one.

The FOCUSSED/paranoid..has become..more rigid/in..his solution,
and centers on/..ONE singular..source..of outer-projection..to escape from..the inner-vacillation.

(Aside:..It should/be..noted that this/type..of paranoia
is an..upside-down form..of religion,..because of/its..obvious attempt..to..unify into oneness.)

Both 1,2,..and..4 are..more likely..to/produce...neurotic..rather than psychotic states/though this..is by no means..guaranteed.

However,..3..[fear/desire..of possesion]..is inherently..more vulnerable..to the/psychotic correction,..again because/of..the more fundamental-level ..confusion which is-involved.

It..should/be..noted,..however,..that/the..greater fear..which is induced..by..[3]..can ITSELF..reach..psychotic proportions,..thus forcing..the_individual/closer..and closer..to-an/external..psychotic
solution.

It/is..emphasized/here..that/these_differences..have/no..effect at all..on/the miracle,..which_can heal.any-of them..with..*equal ease...usually..via revelation.

This/is..because-of..the miracle’s inherent..avoidance/of..[inner]..within-error..distinctions...Its..SOLE/concern..is to distinguish..between truth,..on the/one-hand,..and..ALL kinds of error,..on/the other.

This..is why..some..miracles/SEEM_to/be..of greater_magnitude..than others...But remember..the first point..in this/course,..i.e.,..that there..is/no order..of difficulty..in miracles...after..revelation..of its mean's.

http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

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To close this chapter of popular French songs ...

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Jean Ferrat :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k8VsijdTwo (nuit et brouillard)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsylPXd1iRU (nous dormirons ensemble)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQsF2hH5q8w (aimer à perdre la raison)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eedzx73JX-s (que serais-je sans toi)

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Léo Ferré :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXcUTTLud4 (avec le temps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1PcOsbJbLI (les anarchistes)

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Juliette Greco :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQtKeKfESeA&list=RD02IQtKeKfESeA (sous le ciel de Paris)

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Serge Reggiani :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTl0pmB8_ow (le déserteur)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25a0PiDpmFY (votre fille a 20 ans)

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to cut off..my nose
to..spite my face

Dear oug,

Great post! Short and to the point. Keep it up.

Dear George,

I have a tendency to pontificate on matters even if I know little about them. I can exhibit that vice concerning consciousness. Consciousness incorporates a sense of self. There is evidence that such a sense is not restricted to humans. Most non-human species cannot recognise themselves in a mirror, but some species can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test tells about the mirror test of self-awareness.

Animal species capable of passing

European Magpies are able to pass the mirror test, despite the lack of a neocortex, thought to be the seat of self-awareness in mammals, possibly due to convergent evolution.

Animals that have been observed to pass the mirror test include:
• All great apes:
o Humans – Humans tend to fail the mirror test until they are about 18 months old, or in what psychoanalysts call the "mirror stage".
o Bonobos
o Chimpanzees
o Orangutans
o Gorillas – it was initially thought that gorillas were unable to pass the test, but there are now several well-documented reports of gorillas (such as Koko) passing the test.
• Bottlenose dolphins
• Orcas
• Elephants
• European Magpies – the only non-mammal to pass the test.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2001/05/0502_dolphinvanity.html tells about dolphins doing it.

Self-awareness is a component of consciousness

it call it..confirmation/bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

for those needing/a god free..atheist..proof

anything..to allow us..to perceive men..as beast

but its selective..specific..to certain..
INDIVIDUAL*..members[the..genius..of the animal kingdom]..
like we got..like beethoven..or einstein..jesus or george

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)

the degree..to which Koko..masters..these signs has been controversial,..as has been the degree..to which such mastery demonstrates..language abilities...

one ape..doth not a man make
thus the grasping..at straws

there is no..end..of self deception..
its all..in its perception

from your own link

<<>.There is..some debate..as to the
interpretation..of the results..of the mirror test>>

<<>.only..a very small number..[INDIVIDUALS{>.of species
have been..recorded to pass it>>

it..seems..dependent..
on..your comprehension..of great

<<>..Primates,..other than the great apes,
have so far universally failed the mirror test>>

but no..doubt..one will one day turn-up..
like toto..[or beethoven..or einstein

<<..pigs..do not show evidence of self-recognition

<<..Capuchin monkeys..react to their reflection..either with hostility or affection,..and mark test experiments have shown that they are incapable*..of spontaneous mirror self-recognition

<<>.it remains debatable./.whether recognition..of one's mirror image..can be properly construed..
to imply full self-awareness...but cant confirm..tom[theory of mind]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

Theory of mind..is the ability to attribute mental states—beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc.—to oneself and others and to understand..that others have beliefs, desires,..and intentions that are different from one's own

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_intelligence

Such abilities form..the basis for empathy.

it must also be shown..that the birds
are able to do this..in the wild as well with no experience,
just on their own intelligence to see if it is able to comprehend that it is looking at its own reflection..

*on its own.

However even..when an animal is trained to do this
it's still unknown..if they are aware..that they are looking at themselves,..or are just repeating..the same movements..and commands that they were taught*..so that they may receive..a treat as a reward..after they have correctly*..completed their task

It is true that..untrained pigeons
have never*..been able to pass..the mirror test

you have no..shame..you love music..so thats fine

you disrespect christ/theists..so attack..me..[twice][just this thread]

cant just..refute..like i..refute you

does koto feel..no shame?