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Is being a scientist compatible with believing in God? : Comments

By George Virsik, published 19/7/2013

Conflicts arise only when religion is seen as ersatz-science and/or science as ersatz-religion.

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Dear George,

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« I thought credo - like in “credo in unum Deum” - referred only to the verb credere.”

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You are quite right, George.

Credo (I believe) is a verb
Religio (religious belief) is a noun
Opinio (belief) is a noun
Fidès (belief) is a noun

You can take this as being sure, George, because it is taken from the Gaffiot but please don’t interpret it as my personal knowledge of Latin which is strictly limited to common expressions found in general literature and more specialised legal jargon.

Please keep in mind that my formal education was primary school level in a bush school in outback Queensland which, of course, did not include Latin.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 22 September 2013 8:48:58 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Thanks again. So we are back to square one as to the noun corresponding to credere like belief to believe.
Posted by George, Sunday, 22 September 2013 9:14:44 PM
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Dear George,

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“So we are back to square one as to the noun corresponding to credere like belief to believe.”

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Like “religio” which has 10 entries for its meaning (page 59 of this thread), “credo, credidi, creditum, credere” also has multiple entries for its meaning.

“Creditum” (a credit, a debt), is a noun which derives from “credere” but not quite in the same sense or the same context as “belief” in the nouns “religio”, “opinio”, or “fidès” (though “granting credit" is close to “believing in", it is not exactly the same thing. It is not a debt).

Here is the link to credere in the Gaffiot:

http://www.lexilogos.com/latin/gaffiot.php?q=credere

Latin is to be found among the roots of our languages, not among the branches.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 22 September 2013 10:57:42 PM
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the..lost_tribe..issue..worries many
its..*us..rejected..by society*..

[those..unlucky 13..th rejected..of mans societies
filling..the jails/nut hoses]..get it?

how..would you be..[not of..the 13]
reading stuff..like this..all the time

<<..2.2.1..Loci..and Multiplex Amplification/Conditions>>
<<..A touchdown..PCR thermal profile..was employed.>>

<<..A subset..of STR..loci were chosen..

lets recall..i passed..psych evaluation/twice]

here is..the fruit..
from..all that..nil-insanity

..the reaction..to my surrendered seeds
http://www.ndlerf.gov.au/pub/Monograph_29.pdf

QUOTE..<<*see/Table..3.1...Summary of..the state of origin
and..nature of/samples..used in this study...>>

this is my seeds...
<<..4 Growing conditions unknown
(subsequently denoted by ‘?’)..5 Cultivar type uncertain>>

<<ie ..13 samples..
of..germinated seed..[from one/source]>>me[on behalf of..all of u]

<<While..CS..has..many industrial..and therapeutic/uses,>>

over 30,000..products/alone
http://eprints.qut.edu.au/15949/1/John_Jiggens_Thesis.pdf

[a..bit better..
than..the 12..mentioned..in..revelations.22;2

rev<<.22.2..on..either side..of the river,
was..the tree of life,..*which bore..twelve fruits,..each tree..yielding its fruit....every month.>>*

get it..who would..(*ever..
have 'believed'..30,000 plus..fruits]

but wait..there is..ONE more*
22.2,,<<..The leaves*..of the..[MONEY*]..tree..
are,,for the healing of..the nations.>>

that/is where..i got
the idea..from..[leaves=leavings=money]

[but..went one better..
THE..SOVEREIGN/promise..of *living seeds
plus authentication..to grow..your own..*delivery..
[of the promised pounds shillings pence..weight..inseed]..as promised on*..the promissory note*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promissory_note
<<...A promissory note..is a legal instrument
(more particularly,..a financial instrument),..in which one party (the maker or issuer) promises..in writing to pay..>>

ie the seeds..deliverable..AS PROMISED
plus licensed/lawfull ability to deliver..[by gods will]

[me]..listening
to..my loki within loci

further..the..13 unkown..
on the graph..[3.1]..lol..[=me again]

the loci..thing=me..13[ignore karmic blow back]..thats loki

this..is from..
the..GOVT*..research paper

<<..Additionally,..all of..
the 13 samples..of unknown C. sativa type..(Set 2)
included in this study..had unique genotypes...>>..

<<..As these samples..originated..from individual germinated seeds,..this outcome..was not entirely unexpected..>>..mine/ours

yeah..i told..the judge so..years earlier
plus..his judgment..[50 dollar fine..not 3 months jail..i got in qld..for same quantities

thu.. a point of law
where..state law's..are in divergence ..
that nullifies..state law..as no fed law..was egsistant]

drug laws=un-constitutional..
[oh right so..employees of/state..cant comment..[got it]

anyhow the judge..[in Act],,,concluded..by WISHING ME LUCK*
he knew..what i tried to do..for all of you*..

but back
to govt/link..quote

<<In conclusion,..we have achieved..our objectives
to establish..the accuracy..and reliability of this..technology through developmental validation,..and compiled a genetic database for a substantial..number of..C. sativa samples..>>.

..<<,,The next step..in the implementation
of C. sativa DNA typing can now..be handed to..established forensic laboratories...

<<>.*The final step..will be realized..when this technology
is evaluated..in the courtroom...>>....

dun/and done*

yes..im..insane

http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15031#15031
Posted by one under god, Monday, 23 September 2013 8:42:53 AM
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[those unlucky 13..th
rejected of mans societies
filling..the courts/jails/nut hoses]..

how would you be..
[not of the 13..th tribe]
reading stuff..like this..all the time

<<..In September 2005,..New Scientist reported
that researchers at the Canberra Institute of Technology had identified
a new type..of Cannabis based on analysis of mitochondrial and chloroplast..DNA.[58]..>>

that seems different
than the loci thread..referanced earlier

but im..over it
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725175.200

knowing they will..still act like..im loki crazy
[or just go silent..cause they try to be kind]

i know what i am inside..isnt what you see out

im..iliterate..I HAD to..know
too much of it..plus law's/court procedure/appearing..
[sent for phsyc evaluation]..[twice]..plus money/gnosis..
constitutional law..patent law..land law..
cultural lore..genetics..etc

plus
learn to write properly/spell

i..learned to read
on..bible..science /texts..law/briefs
but mainly books/tv radio/magazines...rubbish
found on..the side of the road

i had barely grasped..written word/spoken word
then tried..to learn..blogging*..[but lets recall..i passed sphsyc evaluation/twice]

here is the fruit..
from..all that..nil-insanity

all i need do..is lodge..an appeal..
or some one sue me..for breach of PROMISE*
but why bother..its only going to further expose my insanity

OR
THE PEOPLE..BEGIN USING IT
or govts use it on their behalf
those not needing..it can give it to..whatever

its already been demanded..for you
demand i..explain/or..demand i deliver*it

i get it..but
people dont want it..

i got it.
so sue me
thats all i got

except for..swedenborg..
and even i got trouble..reading all..of that

back to pappa..he should adopt..gods money..
dare i awake the special language THREAD AGAIN*

OH WELL..lets go read[the next small scroll
/rock..and roll../duck and cover
love one an other

http://www.americamagazine.org/pope-interview
Posted by one under god, Monday, 23 September 2013 9:16:35 AM
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there has to be a better way
than by bankers making unlimited debt*

the wikiseed at least is edible
you cant eat paper..or cyber credit
and promises become bailout..via stealing your cash/credit..via bail-in

ontoime you will know hyper inflation
in union..with stagflation..of wage/income and yet again..the value of our coin

once coin goes..
you will ONLY trade..with the MARK of the beast*

the money changers destroy
its based in death..blah/blah/blah[they..dont care johan]

Quantitative Easing Worked For The Weimar Republic
For A Little While Too
http://investmentwatchblog.com/quantitative-easing-worked-for-the-weimar-republic-for-a-little-while-too/

There is a reason why every fiat currency in the history of the world has eventually failed. At some point, those issuing fiat currencies always find themselves giving in to the temptation to wildly print more money.

Sometimes, the motivation for doing this is good. When an economy is really struggling, those that have been entrusted with the management of that economy can easily fall for the lie that things would be better if people just had "more money".

Today, the Federal Reserve finds itself faced with a scenario that is very similar to what the Weimar Republic was facing nearly 100 years ago. Like the Weimar Republic, the U.S. economy is also struggling and like the Weimar Republic, the U.S. government is absolutely drowning in debt.
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 8:10:16 AM
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