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What women want : Comments

By Sonja Couroupis, published 21/8/2012

An extensive study of over 200 scientific papers concluded that the primary motivation for abortion is a lack of financial, material and emotional support.

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Continuing..

1. It takes two to make a child but only one person WANTS it and HAS it. Men cannot be continued to be blamed.

2. Their are other ways women can get POWER without infecting this planet with progeny. Universities and TAFES are built for that purpose. If women are underrepresented in mental pursuits its only because they have easir easy-streets to getting the good life.

3. The rate of births is currently 73 million live births per year and this rate is increasing despite all the talk of abortion and all the blame cast on poorer nations. Immigrations, baby bonuses, parental leave and a whole mess of lies continues to attempt to distort this truth in ill conceived attempts by world governments to assuage the tears, shorter skirts and low cut dresses of push-cum-shove greed stricken women.

4. Every girl born today will expect 2.3 children to make a life ex brain power and they will care no more for the environment or civilised behaviours than their mothers do right NOW.

This is not misogynism any more than saying men are evil for meeting women's demands because they are sex maniacs is misandroidism.

What it is is the TRUTH about the disgusting lies that CURRENT or extant women are perpetrating on this planet and our species. The ugly consequences cannot continue to be hidden amongst lies, lipstick and blame games while what can only be described as a women's driven armageddon is just around the next GFC corner.

Can't live with them... better learn to live without them and SURVIVE
Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 8:28:16 PM
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Yabby, we are all organisms with potential, from conception to natural death, always with the potential to live another day and possibly get to the next stage of development.
A sperm cell is not an organism. It is part of a human male organism, which gets released from his body. It cannot reproduce nor grow. A human ova is also not an organism. I think you need to read some human biology books Yabby.
We humans are organisms and at a certain stage of our lives we do think and feel. No one is giving a zygote magical powers or reverence. I am just pointing out that it is an organism and we were once one. We were never a sperm or ova, though likely one of these type of cells is produced by us.
What is a person (people is plural)? My dictionary says “a human being”, which science has established starts at conception. But of course society makes definitions and these can change. The concept of personhood is an abstract one, in the realm of philosophy. Whether something is a person is not a scientifically measurable quantity. So, to say a zygote is not a person is not accurate, it is a subjective opinion. I have mine, you have yours, whose should win out?
Your last sentence is irrelevant, we all die eventually, but Charles was not talking about humans killing other humans in that statement.
Posted by RichG, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 8:29:12 PM
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Hey runner, a baby of 6 weeks wouldn't fit under a microscope. They weigh several kilograms. If you have any evidence that clinics are giving false or deceptive information to women, state your case.

Clinics who perform abortions are legally and profesionally bound to provide accurate and truthful information about potential risks. Failure to do so will result in a doctor being struck off and sued by patients. RTL "counselling" services, or RTL lobby groups like 40DFL on the other hand, are under no legal obligation to provide truthful or accurate health information. They can and do deceive women
Posted by crumpethead, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 8:51:07 PM
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David f, there are many books I have not read, they are unread by me. I may never read them. Your first point is thus inaccurate. Unborn is not emotive either, it simply refers to their current location.
Saying that an embryo or fetus is just tissue is scientifically ignorant. It is a living organism that self regulates, is growing, has a beating heart by 21 days, a working brain by 40 days from conception, and it responds to touch in the 7th or 8th week of its life. Science is learning more and more about when an unborn child can feel pain, which experts use to believe was at birth, and now put before 20 weeks. Please educate yourself.
Further there is no way to know whether giving birth is riskier than aborting, since most countries do not keep records on deaths from abortion, preferring instead to record these deaths under categories describing the complication that led to the death, like infection. Researchers in that area freely acknowledge that abortion deaths are under-reported and that they have little to no idea by how much. It is clear that the numbers of deaths are very, very small for both pregnancy and abortion these days, thanks to modern medicine, about 10-12 women per 100000 pregnancies in the US, UK and Australia. Of course more than 1 is too many, but many of the deaths are due to physician error, e.g. failing to notice the signs of a heart attack (yes a heart attack during pregnancy is counted as a death from pregnancy! Yes, I’ve seen the official reports). Once again, please educate yourself instead of spreading rumours that you have no evidence for.
Posted by RichG, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 9:03:37 PM
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*A sperm cell is not an organism*

Not so RichG. It is an individual being that moves about. It is
very much alive. Look it up on Google.

*We were never a sperm or ova*

You certainly were. You are the product of sperm and ova, beings which
you flush down life's toilet every day, without a second thought.

*What is a person*

A person is a being with a human brain. You are going to have to wait until about week 22, until what can be called a human brain is present in a fetus.

No human brain, no person, brain stops and you don't have a person,
you have a corpse
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 9:08:03 PM
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Dear runner,

The Nazis didn't see the Jews as human, and I don't think you see a woman as human. You show no concern for the woman. She is more than a container for an embryo. Apparently the embryo to you is more important than the woman who has the embryo inside her, and you would control what she does with what is inside her.

I don't twist anything. I think an adult woman is far more important than an embryo and has the right to decide what she wants to do with that embryo. Apparently you are concerned with the embryo and don't give a damn about the woman.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 9:21:53 PM
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