If abortion does not kill a human being, then those crazy people praying outside an abortion clinic need OUR prayers. If abortion does kill a human being, then EVERYONE should be praying outside of the abortion clinics. So the question is -- does abortion kill a human being?

From the moment of conception, if you did a genetic test on a one celled human zygote, it would show it is a human being. From conception to natural death, it's a human being. Any line that you arbitrarily draw to say when you can or cannot kill it, can be applied to any human being of any age, size, level of development, or location. None of us are safe. Abortion kills this human being; if it does not, the abortion is considered a failure.

So before we complain about what people are saying or wearing, what we like or don't like OUTSIDE the clinic, how people "feel," etc, we must first stop and ask ourselves what exactly is going on INSIDE the clinic. Are they killing human beings?

*The answer is for sex to be reserved for marriage only*

Ho, ho, ho, this is the 21st century sunshine, we have moved on from 100 years ago, fortunately.

There are plenty of married couples who can't afford to just keep feeding more children, the problem is not limited to singles. Go
to the rubbish tips of Manilla, where they keep popping them out,
despite dire poverty, because the Catholic Church won't give them the
snip at the local hospital. If people want less abortions why don't they protest about that?

Children are great if they are loved and wanted. But if all women
followed the authors example and had 5, we would face an ever larger
overpopulation problem than we already face, with the world's population increasing by another 250'000, every time you have your daily breakfast.

Fact is that every woman has about 400 chances to have a baby and you can't keep all the little darlings, as Darwin correctly noted in his
Origin of Species. You will fail, if you try to go against the laws of nature.

Here here David F, how nice would be for mature adults to be able to choose what they want, but there are always those who can't help but change someone else's lives.

In my opinion, if abortion was murder, a child would celebrate their first birthday three month after birth, but they don't. End of story!

@Raison: A fertilised zygote has the potential to BECOME a human being. Many of them don't, of course -- your loving Almighty God, if you believe in him, is the most bloody-handed abortionist of all, causing up to 50% of pregnancies to spontaneously terminate.

But with modern technology we will soon be able to say the same about any cell in the human body. So if having the potential to grow into a human makes you human, then having a mole burnt off will soon be mass murder, since it eliminates any chance of those cells achieving their potential as human beings. Picking your nose will make you equivalent to a serial killer, and having your appendix out will put you up there with Hitler and Stalin on the genocidal scoreboard.

And when a few years after that it becomes possible to convert cells from any mammal into human zygotes, you will no longer be able to get a sick dog put down or cook a pork sausage without bearing the awful guilt for terminating countless millions of potential human lives. It will be interesting to see how the churches cope with this massive influx of ensouled cells, with a billion Last Rites to be carried out every time someone loses a finger or toe...

Or you could take the view that a zygote bears the same relation to a human being that an acorn does to an oak tree, and that it's really not the same thing at all. No, I guess that would be too sensible.

@crumpethead
"I've watched as women and their partners or family members make it clear that they don't want to engage with the protesters, errr.. counsellors, yet they are still followed to the clinic entrance. Since when is pleading for a woman not to kill her baby deemed to be counselling? Since when is displaying large posters of aborted/stillborn 2nd or 3rd trimester fetuses counselling?"

40 Days for Life participants do not engage with passers-by in any way unless approached first. They especially do not engage with clients or staff of the abortion centres outside which they hold their vigils. The idea of 40 Days for Life is exactly what the tag line says: "Pray to end abortion." The operative word there is 'pray'. It's not "Protest to end abortion" or "Harass to end abortion" or "Intimidate to end abortion".

40 Days for Life is a prayer vigil, not a protest. We pray that women will have a change of heart and seek the support that they need to be able to have their baby. If they do and seek our help, we are able to refer them to crisis pregnancy centres or other groups like the Helpers of God's Precious Infants that provide the practical and material help throughout and following the pregnancy.

I think, crumpethead, that you've done the typical pro-abortion thing by seeing 40 Days for Life as being an organisation that is opposed to abortion and have lumped 40 Days in with all other organisations of the same ilk. In future, it would make you look much better educated on the matter to find out more about an organisation before making ill-informed judgements about it.

Yabby, I have to agree. Society has most definitely moved on. Just like a drug addict might move on from tobacco to marijuana to heroin.

Tell me, are you pro-abortion or pro-unmarried-women-having-children or both? Because you're obviously pro-sex-outside-of-marriage, which means you have to be one or the other.

Maybe our grandparents weren't so dumb...