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By Sonja Couroupis, published 21/8/2012An extensive study of over 200 scientific papers concluded that the primary motivation for abortion is a lack of financial, material and emotional support.
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Posted by Kyles, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 3:26:26 PM
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Fantastic article. This is not about women NOT having a choice to abort. Women have that choice readily available. It is about women NOT having the choice to keep their often much wanted baby. Why should a woman, in this day and age, feel like she has to abort because she feels she can't afford a baby? Or because her boss will sack her if she continues her pregnancy? How do you call that choice?
On another note, contraception fails often, which is why we see so many unplanned pregnancies coming into our centre. Posted by broome, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 3:30:24 PM
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Oh off it broome, 'feel like she has to abort because she feels she can't afford a baby'.
What if a guy 'feels like' he cant afford child support? Cut back on smokes and booze, and your fulfil your responsibilities is the normal, and correct, response to that. Why is it different for women? Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 4:25:13 PM
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40 Days for life protests are a very clever means of disguising a prolonged campaign of harassment and intimidation as some type of counselling service. I've watched as women and their partners or family members make it clear that they don't want to engage with the protesters, errr.. counsellors, yet they are still followed to the clinic entrance. Since when is pleading for a woman not to kill her baby deemed to be counselling? Since when is displaying large posters of aborted/stillborn 2nd or 3rd trimester fetuses counselling? Especially when the vast majority are only early first trimester.
For these 40-days people to suggest that an unplanned pregnancy somehow reduces women to idiots who are incapable of making rational decisions, is insulting. Does anyone remember Tony Abbott's free pregnancy counselling service? Despite widespread advertising, why didn't that succeed? Women had the option to receive counselling (from a Catholic organisation) yet they avoided it in their droves. So now, are we to believe that these bible bashing protesters outside abortion clinics know what's best for women? Posted by crumpethead, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 4:58:05 PM
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houellebecq a man usually has a job from which some of his money is expected to go to the care of a child he created. A woman with no man to financially support her and her child has to either rely on the government for income or work while paying for infant childcare and suffering from sleep deprivation. It is hard for a woman to do the majority of the childcare of an infant even with a supportive husband let alone while holding down a job and having no support in caring for her child. It's not just a matter of Mum giving up the booze and the smokes, it's a totally different situation.
Posted by Kyles, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 5:20:01 PM
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What difference does it make? how can young men and women being molded into consumer/careerists actually participate in society if they view human life as intrinsically sacred. Something money and power are compelled to respect? As late capitalism insists then it shall be done. And if humans are only fully human when adult and powerful and only then cannot be killed by the state, then as an amazing coincidence this philosophy of power is our dominant public philosophy. How if motherhood is a profound vocation, sex is intrinsically meaningful, and family as worthy of freedom from attack as Microsoft, Caltex or the state itself, can the philosophy of power prevail? And so the babies and subjected to lethal violence, the parents then parents of a dead baby, grief they carry all their days.
The mum's and dad's will be forced to feel the pressure of 'choice' to submit on late capitalism's terms, feel in excruciating depth that the life of their child really does threaten their own. http://prezi.com/sngywlg5sxt5/i-shop-therefore-i-am/ Our 'society' pits a mother against her innocent defenceless child turns men and women into child killers at an early age. As the babies go so do we, have no illusions. A child sacrificing society is enslaved and doesn't have much time, all our works are bathed in their blood. Turn off your TV! pray! Ms Bowen-Courapis and Mr Bereit understand authentic freedom and are leaders in the greatest grass roots mass movement in human history, the pro-human child movement - which keeps growing worldwide while completely lacking any elite media, state-funded intellectual! or political assistance. Real life savers! not death-workers. Thank you to them both. Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 6:18:06 PM
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Why are those who are pro-choice so anti anyone who wants to give women a choice other than abortion? The number of women who decide to keep their babies after being offered real, practical help to remove the crisis shows that these women don't really want an abortion. They just don't know there are other options, they don't know there are people who care enough to give their time and money providing housing, clothing, baby equipment, money etc to those who need it.
Studies have shown that women who have abortion are at a higher risk of depression and suicide than those who carry to term and women who already have depressive tendencies are at an even greater risk of depression and suicide after abortion.
Isn't it about time we started getting rid of the crisis instead of getting rid of the pregnancy?