Instead of calling anti-lifers "pro-choice" they MUST be addressed as "anti-life", and also, instead of saying they support a "woman's right to choice" they need to be described as being against an unborn baby's right to live.

This issue is an extremely sad reflection on our society, where babies are only valued if they're valued by the mother. If the mother wants the baby, then it's a baby. If the mother doesn't want the baby it's a blob of cells or a product of conception.

In my opinion, the issue centres around the breakdown of marriage and the family unit. Children should be raised in a family with a mother and a father. If the father is able to escape his responsibilities to look after his woman and his son or daughter, then I can understand why women might get financially desperate as a result.

The answer is for sex to be reserved for marriage only, where the product of sex results in a family unit - a mother, a father, and a child. This would have a dramatic impact on the abortion rate, because women would be supported financially, emotionally and materially because the man is doing his job.

Pro-choice should mean being in favour of the baby being allowed to live long enough to make its own choices.

"Pro-choice should mean being in favour of the baby being allowed to live long enough to make its own choices."

Just how long does someone have to live before that choice is respected?
Can I presume that those who support the above view would support the right of people to end their own lives in a manner which has a high degree of certainty and low risk of unnecessary pain?

My gut feel is that most who agreed would not support the right of others to seek an end to their own lives in such a manner.

R0bert

Congrats to 40DFL and especially David B. Thank goodness that an organisation devotes time and resources to support women in need, many who feel pressured and coerced, and who will speak for the unborn child. All of this done peacefully and without harassment, and clearly thousands of women have exercised their choice to take up this offer of help. Pleading for a life to be saved, and offering help and support, is not harassment. As Germaine Greer said, "Where others have decided that a woman's baby should not be born, she will be pressured to carry out the duty to herself, to the fetus, to the health establishment and to the state, by undergoing abortion. Her autonomy is the least important consideration". 40DFL offers women an option, and a dignified life-affirming one at that, that many women did not have available, and they do so out of compassion for her and her child. If you don't believe this, ask them yourself.

I think there are people who care deeply on both sides of the debate. Good people who love people.

I've got a passion to see both lives valued, not either/or. And usually there are really difficult obstacles to overcome in order to value both lives. But I believe it is worth it. Courage is what is needed not compromise.