I'm surprised that no one has yet blamed
homosexuality on the carbon tax (joking).

Seriously though - as I've written in the past -
each society views its own patterns of marriage,
family, and kinship as self-evidently right and
proper (and usually as God-given as well).

Much of the current concern about the fate of
marriage stems from this kind of ethnocentrism.
If we believe that there is only one "right"
marriage form, then naturally any change will
be interpreted as heralding the doom of the whole
institution.

It is important, to recognise, therefore, that
there is an immense range in marriage, family,
and kinship patterns; that each of these patterns
may be, at least in their own context, perfectly
viable; and above all, that marriage, like any other
social institution, must inevitably change through
time, in our own society, as in all others.

Same-sex marriage will undoubtedly take place in this
country. It's not a question of "If," but a question of
"When." Hopefully a conscience vote in Parliament will
help settle this matter once and for all.

No, Jay, I don't think the Jews are a problem (or THE Problem), or the Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Arabs, Africans, Europeans, Icelanders, Inuits, San, Slavs, Gypsies .. or even your Indo-Aryans, .. or Anglo-Saxons .. or any Other Group. (Or Gays or Straights.) Next you'll be telling me we're really all different species - who just happen by a quirk of genetics to be able to inter-breed. (And of course, we can't all be equal, can we, as some are obviously so much closer in appearance to certain other anthropoids?) Oh, my aching ribs.

No, the problem is people who can't see beyond the tip of their nose, who are so full of their own bias, prejudice and codswallop that they have to interpret and regurgitate all facts and history to suit their own distorted image of reality. Sad really, if it wasn't so destructive.

"If you cut me, do I not bleed?" ... Beneath the skin we are all equal, but, as in any farmyard, some will always push to be more equal than others - and therein lies the problem and the dilemna. Our evolution is like a newly hatched chick, but as one which rails against the lessons and guidance of the shrewd hen, but rather seeks to emulate the rowdy, belligerent and hormone-driven novice runty rooster.

Nazis? A demented lot of self-important deluded psychopaths. (And ultimately weak and gutless.)

Modern-day Nazis? Probably latent homosexuals, radically insecure dropouts, or outright anti-social psychopaths - who rail against their 'natural' proclivities (or revel in them), and who take out their frustrations and lack of self-worth by beating up anyone who appears 'normal' or harmless. Freaks. (And full of all sorts of excuses for their 'freakishness'.)

Gays? There, but for a stroke of the genetic (or neurological) lottery, go you or I, Jay. Freakish to think about, eh, Jay?

Doth thou protest too much?

>>Hadrian, were he alive today would not be able follow this conversation, he'd be all at sea with the notion of equality and horrified by the idea of men "Marrying" other men.<<

You might be right: I had to look up Hadrian because I was only familiar with his eponymous wall until this evening. It seems that Hadrian preferred the unhappy heterosexual marriage combined with adulterous homosexual relationships model - a model which is not unheard of in the modern world. But as Roman Emperor I imagine Hadrian's marriage would have been more about politics than passion. In our society most people marry because they love the other person and not because the marriage has been arranged or is politically convenient. So if a bloke prefers blokes and would rather take a bloke for his wife than a sheila where is the harm in that? Look at the plus side: more pussy for us hetero blokes. Unless of course you don't like pussy...

What we can be certain of is that Hadrian would have had no problem with the idea of men entering into sexual relationships with other men - and that he'd be ROFLHAO at The Truth's hilarious suggestion that the idea of entering into sexual relationships with other men wasn't invented until over 1700 years after his death by a group of Communazis trying to eliminate the entire human race.

Cheers,

Tony

@Jay Of Melbourne
1. Read much? I did not say that jews destroyed Europe (even though they DID destroy Europe and are working feverishly on the rest of the world). I said that jews were USED AS A TOOL to destroy Europe. Furthermore, since you want to get onto the topic of jew guilt, it was the jews who used the jews as a tool to destroy Europe. Disgusting.

2. There is no such thing as "Fascist." The correct word is "Socialist." The word Fascist is a way for the left to blame their political and racial guilt on the right. It was made up by communists in the 1920s. Look at any so-called "Fascist" and you will see that they are EXACTLY the same as Socialists, because they ARE Socialists. Calling people "Fascist" just means that you don't know what you are talking about. When will people stop spreading this retard propaganda. Using the words Fascist, Fascism, etc. is like calling Nazis right-wingers. Seriously people, it's time to get over the left-wing brainwash and wake up. There is no such thing as a right-wing socialist.

3. As far as Christians worshiping Jews... Pull your head out of your ass. Of COURSE they worship Jews. Not only was Jesus a jew, but guess who wrote Christianity... Guess who wrote the Holy Bible, both old and new... Guess who wrote the one-god religions that most people, regardless of race, follow today... THE JEWS. Do you get it now? The reason that Christians are becoming more and more pro-Israel is because they are being 'called home', so to speak. It is not complicated at all. "It's complicated" is another sign that you do not know what you are talking about. "It's complicated" is a term that the low-mentality far-left uses to avoid having to think about anything.

@Jay Of Melbourne
"Blaming all Jews for things which are not under their control, or that are merely exploited by Jewish crooks is counterproductive if you're talking about saving Western civilisation..."

Correction: for things that ARE under their control. No, Jay, that would be productive, not counter-productive. No amount of jews could save Western Civilization, because jews are socialist by nature and the way to save Western Civilization is to get away from left-wing politics. Jews DESTROYED Western Civilization. Look at the books that they've written; look at Israel. Socialist trash. If you knew anything about Jewish history and their assault on all people of the world, especially on White people, then you would understand that TRUTH is only counter productive to those who deny it.

"it's the Anglo Saxons who are the real wreckers..."

You need to get over your racism and start paying attention to reality. At least now any readers know that you are a hardcore racist, historically-uneducated and want to promote jew control over the world. At least they know to not take you seriously.

4. Abraham Foxman is the most racist piece of trash in the world! ADL is the most racist organization in the world, followed closely by Southern Poverty Law Center. Anyone who's had their eyes open for more than a day knows this. Who cares what Abraham Foxman has to say? He only spreads jewish racism against ALL non-jew races.

5. "Equality" is a socialist "gig," not a White people gig. Socialism is a political system, not a race of people. But I see that you like to blame everything on White people no matter how unrelated to race that the topic is... Racist.

@Tony Lavis
My point was not that there were no homosexuals before communism. I knew that I should have written that in because I knew that there would be at least one in the bunch who couldn't figure anything out for himself.

"And why would Commies or Nazis want to eradicate the human species when they are members of that species?"

Ask any anti-humanist communist or socialist. You know, those idiots who hate humans for being, blame humans for nature and wish all humans dead. The same people who want to take away all of your rights, even though it means taking away their own. They are too blind to see that they are also on the losing side.