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Myth vs reality: women and girls' timidity or real risk taking? : Comments

By Jocelynne Scutt, published 20/4/2011

There is no truth to the story that the glass ceiling is partly held in place by women's aversion to risk.

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Ammonite
It is possible to maintain girl’s interest in science.

“When scientific concepts in physics, information technology, and statistics were presented in a female friendly way -- as for example relating to online shopping or cosmetic surgery -- the mean level of girls' interest rose. However, the boys' interest in these topics simultaneously decreased.”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110302075951.htm

A question could be asked “Why should boy’s interest increase if the science course were structured around ” online shopping or cosmetic surgery”?

Another question could be “Why should a science courses be structured around “online shopping or cosmetic surgery”?

Remembering that online shopping occupies a very small part of computing, and cosmetic surgery occupies a very small part of science.

If girls lose interest in science, it is not necessarily because of science or men.

Perhaps it is because girls lose interest in science.

The author should open their mind, and not be so ready to blame men for anything and everything.

I am left to wonder which so-called Australian university was the author educated in.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 10:55:32 AM
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Hopefully one day there will be robot/android things to be the perfect partner. I’d have two of them.

My girl recently listened to a mother tell her teenage daughter she cannot be a mechanic because it is a boys job. She later took this teenage girl aside and told her what a load of crap that was.

I think my opinion would be that since she accepted what her mother said then she probably isn’t going to cope trying to learn alongside a room full of young men.

It’s a funny old life. I’m waiting to find out what course this girl does decide to go on. Hairdressing? Childcare? Is Domestic Science still out there? Years ago some legal papers needed me to fill in my occupation “mother” I said or “housewife”…. Nope had to be Domestic Engineer, so embarrassing.

Vanna aren’t the science people clever enough to come up with topics both sexes are interested in?

You just said the girls level of interest did rise based on what the topic is so they don’t lose interest in science something is making them lose interest.
Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:10:31 AM
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Jewely
"You just said the girls level of interest did rise based on what the topic is so they don’t lose interest in science something is making them lose interest."

Hormones.

Something the author could study up on, (as a part of discovering new information).

Next topic please.

Or next piece of discriminatory, bigoted miandry thrown at the male gender by someone trained in a so-called Australian university.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:20:57 AM
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Don't worry, they have found a science for girls, but they are still not too good at applying it. It's Environmental science.

It takes all those with OPs so low they can't get into any worthwhile course, & it starts back at high school year 10 level, as most of the students didn't do any math or science after year 10.

Councils & the Environment Department are giving the graduates some of the meaningless jobs they have in abundance.

We had a couple of these ladies, billed as irrigation "experts" from the water resources section of what used to be the Dept of Agriculture, [now Dept of Environment] at our local irrigation committee meeting recently. The Agricultural Department existed back when government departments still did something.

As many of us still judge irrigation effect in inches per acre applied, I asked one of them, talking in liters to tell us how many litres applied an inch to one acre, so many in the group could apply the information to their farming situation.

Would you believe two Bachelors of Science, sent out as irrigation experts could not tell us, nor could they do the math required to work it out.

They were nice young ladies, who could tell us interesting things like which types of invertebrates, living in the sand in the river bottom, suffered most when the river was dry for a period.

Now that's science, & about as much use as big boobs on a bull.

Oh, & don't worry, we have an accountant, & 2 engineers in the group, so we showed them how to work it out.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:09:16 PM
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vanna,

"Find one instance where I have said something negative about women."

I see you've fallen back on your longtime tactic...you attempt to disguise your misogyny by mainly bagging mothers and feminists. And although you obviously consider yourself scintillating in your covert disparagement, it is blatantly obvious where you're coming from.

"...women are becoming increasingly hopeless." (amongst other rants about mothers in general)
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10396&page=3

"....and now it's almost impossible for a man to work with women for any length of time in the workplace without one of them accusing him of some type of sexual harassment...."
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11703&page=13

No doubt, I could find many instances where you forgot to insert mother or feminist in place of "women" - suffice to say, I've got better things to do.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:44:27 PM
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“Hormones.”

What? You do know our boys have them in abundance also don’t you Vanna?

If you’re talking about female puberty it’s usually years earlier than the 15 – 16 year old ages you referred to. Try 9 – 13 for girls. I think they cope a lot better in many ways with it than those same awkward years in boys.

Hasbeen – sorry to hear about your bad day at work with two young ladies. Bad that their teachers seem to have let them down somewhere along their chosen fields.
Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 1:21:32 PM
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