vanna,

I actually did quite well at science in high-school, despite a procession of tedious and spiritless (male) teachers...it is necessary for a teacher of science to have the ability to arouse and enliven a pupil's imagination.

In adult life, two of the best non-fiction books I have read were on the dawning of the science of geology and one on paleo-archeology, because the authors had the gift to inspire.
Sadly,inspiration was nowhere to be seen in the classes I attended.

(Btw, my brother is a science teacher - so maybe he got the lion's share of the science genes in our family)

Poriot,
“I actually did quite well at science in high-school”

Does that tell you something.

The current situation of “You don’t have to learn maths and science if you really don’t fell like it” obviously doesn’t work.

Our current results show that.

I would agree that there are many sub-standard teachers. The current situation of minimal performance pay means that most teachers just go through the motions.

I believe that is why so many men have left the education system, or never join to start with. Few men would want to work harder for no reward.

However that is what the highly feminist and completely archaic teacher’s union wants.

Snag:“Jewely, etc, who infect this web site with their obvious hatred for & desire to dominate all males.”

Only 3.5 billion more and my domination will be complete. Mwuahaha.

Vanna:“Jewely, Congratulations. It is true that we are all derived from stars.”

I learnt some new stuff I’d never thought about before, thank you Vanna.

“So a method of stimulating interest in math and science amongst students (and eventually the population), is to simply eliminate teachers from the education system who have no interest in maths and science.”

Well yeah, how can they encourage students if they aren’t enthusiastic themselves? Are we talking about the younger schools that don’t move from class to class for subjects?

Salt:”So, Jewely, taking me to task. I thought you were nicer than that.”

Gawd forget it then.

The 'good grief' was at FS.

vanna might have an aversion to women in certain roles but he generally does not demonstrate malice.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11925#205303

Pelican, you know better than that, i have never displayed any malice towards anybody, i don't even hate Communists, i feel sorry for them. Loony Left politics was invented as a system of training sheeple to oppress themselves.

When will you understand that men are NOT victims of some radical, extreme, loony left, lesbian, feMANazi conspiracy.

Women ARE the victims of a closet communist, politically correct, plan to victimise themselves.

in the 1950's husbands "put their wives up on pedestals" worshipped, spoiled them. now many men, do, have a low opinion of women in general, because women are failing at being wives & mothers, at an ever increasing rate because the fauxMANistas TRAINED them to fail.

Recently i met 2 young men in their late 20's, wealthy, successful, determined bachelors. They told me a politically incorrect joke.

Q, What does a sensible, intelligent, self respecting, hard working young man on a 6 figure income, do when he is ready to settle down & he meets a good girl? A, shoot her, before she turns bad, they all do.

You will just have to take my word for this, but the joke did not come from "bitter, twisted, divorced, middle aged men" but a happy, healthy, well adjusted, university educated, young, Internet entrepreneur, whose parents are still happily married BTW.

That is what half a century of Politically Correct, feMANazism has done for the women of Australia. it was started by communists to spread fear, loathing, mistrust between men & women in capitalist, democracies. it has been working perfectly. you, suzeonline & all the others, are proof of that, continuing to be, "in denial" despite the mountain of evidence in front of you.

Formersnag, Communism brought us feminism did it?
So what brought us chauvinism then, the Nazi's?
Good grief indeed!

I am starting to worry about you now.
Have you ever sought any help for your obvious problems with imagined conspiracies?