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Myth vs reality: women and girls' timidity or real risk taking? : Comments
By Jocelynne Scutt, published 20/4/2011There is no truth to the story that the glass ceiling is partly held in place by women's aversion to risk.
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Posted by Formersnag, Sunday, 24 April 2011 4:26:18 PM
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Snag:”Hold guns to young women's heads & force them against their will to go into the infantry, dirty dangerous work like underground coal mining, etc.”
Yep we’ll start with you sisters, aunts and mothers. Do you go through a lot of keyboards posting here?? Snag:” See how easy it is to solve problems when you use Masculine, linear, logical thought processes. EG, face facts, instead of using female, lateral thinking, denial, thought processes.” Oh that was logical thought was it. I did look up “linear” and found “developed sequentially from the obvious without in-depth understanding”. Posted by Jewely, Sunday, 24 April 2011 4:41:53 PM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11925#204821
Got it in one Jewely, i want you to start with my female friends, relatives, along with everybody else's, then we will see just how popular Radical, Extreme, Loony Left, feMANazism really is, with "real" women. No, keyboard is fine, i love "real" women & they love me. As to your last sentence this drivel about "logical thought processes" was made up by communist humanities academics in the mid 1950's as part of their Politically Correct Thought Police agenda to discredit male dominated science in the west. BTW, my auntie was a rocket scientist on the Woomera rocket range because she had the opportunity many men her age did not have, to go to university. She also was forbidden from having babies or being married during the post war baby boom because after the war, there was not enough men to go around. Posted by Formersnag, Sunday, 24 April 2011 5:01:22 PM
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“Got it in one Jewely, i want you to start with my female friends, relatives, along with everybody else's, then we will see just how popular Radical, Extreme, Loony Left, feMANazism really is, with "real" women.”
What is a real woman then? “As to your last sentence this drivel about "logical thought processes"” You bought up the logical thought stuff. I looked up the linear thought process. “was made up by communist humanities academics in the mid 1950's as part of their Politically Correct Thought Police agenda to discredit male dominated science in the west.” Communists invented logical thought? “BTW, my auntie was a rocket scientist on the Woomera rocket range because she had the opportunity many men her age did not have, to go to university. Why did they let her in to Uni and not a man instead? Is this when you started getting angry at women in general? “She also was forbidden from having babies or being married during the post war baby boom because after the war, there was not enough men to go around.” Lucky cow eh. My Aunties were left to raise families and keep the farms going alone. I don’t think yours or my Aunties would complain either. Posted by Jewely, Sunday, 24 April 2011 6:17:10 PM
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We just had a female chief scientist untill she resigned.
Why did she resign. Well it appears that she didn't like the federal government's attitude towards science. But the prime minister and many other ministers in the federal government are female. The situation of continuously blaming evil male belongs to the 1970's. Posted by vanna, Monday, 25 April 2011 5:36:51 AM
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I really didn't want to get into this one, but I just couldn't resist a few comments.
Jewely, you are such a breath of fresh air in this otherwise musty isolated world of rationalising and rationalisation. Good for you! A tiger, grrrr (but one who maybe also loves playing with the cubs). I think women and girls are great - they keep the world going and keep us guys on our toes. My humble opinion is that the female of the species has some significant attributes not generally shared by males, and that's a good thing. However, there are obviously differences from one female to another, and hence we have a Julia Gillard, who is successful, yet it's not her success which makes me rather dislike her. Maybe it's the body language thing, but I tend to focus on the thin lips. Shouldn't be talking about our PM like this - supposed to show respect. It's ok to have a shot at Rudd though. Want a contrast? Dr Marie Bashir - just love her. It's a perception thing. Seriously, would we really want women to be more like men? I don't think so. Women can probably do just about anything they set their mind to. And that I think is the crux - they have to want to, and usually that would mean that they have to be wired in a certain way. I think people end up the way their innate capabilities or particular circumstances dictate. No doubt some female geniuses probably fall through the cracks from time to time because of circumstance. Pity. Make education more equal, ok, but not by limiting opportunity for women and girls who really just want to be home-makers. Sure, there needs to be choice, and impartial well-founded career advice. Go to it girls. The world is more open now than ever before, and it's only going to get better, unless megalo machos ruin it all. (I know I've come across real paternalistic, but I can't help it, I'm wired that way both inherently and from my life experience.) Posted by Saltpetre, Monday, 25 April 2011 4:04:24 PM
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I know many women personally, who make a "lifestyle choice" to work less hours in jobs with less responsibility, because they just don't want to work that hard. Clearly the only way to fix this, is to force them against their will to work harder. Another solution would be to force them to support a full time stay at home house husband, if they want to have children as well as a career.
Oh & there is another problem, those recalcitrant women who want their husbands to be the "main bread winner". Many of them are "career aggressive by proxy", they encourage their husbands to be aggressive at work, earn more money, so they have, more spending power, without being a working mother. Take away their credit cards & their husbands won't have to work to quite so hard, go for that promotion, then working women will have more access to the top jobs, easy, problem solved.
See how easy it is to solve problems when you use Masculine, linear, logical thought processes. EG, face facts, instead of using female, lateral thinking, denial, thought processes.