<Women confide in women about these things they don’t sit around and talk to men about it. From what I’ve seen and heard from women young and old and from all walks of life I actually think the sheer number of these crimes would be staggering.Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 2:27:52 AM>

Ah a culture of misandry, footballers are often accused of having a culture of misogyny.

Part of the female bullying technique is tell bad stories

< One could even say that the TEEN RELATIONSHIP PROJECT (TRP) by the LAMARSH CENTRE FOR RESEARCH is an excellent example of circuitous female aggression as each illustration depicts boys as the main bullies (each picture has at least one more boy than girl bully in it). These graphics are next to text that tells that the shoe is on the other foot: girls, not boys, are not only more indirectly aggressive but also more violent physically, and the older they grow the more sophisticated they become in their aggression.

We are told, since our childhood on, that one picture is worth a thousand words, thus by a few strokes of a brush the researchers>
Eeva Sodhi

Cherful,

I sympathise with the dilemma that you describe but when you write 'If other men didn’t commit these offences then other men would not be falsely accused', that really is getting close to profiling, to labelling all men as probable, not just potential, rapists, as if one guy getting chrged and jailed is just as good as any other - a sort of collective punishment.

We are talking about two tragedies:

* women who are raped;

* men who are jailed for such offences, which they have not committed.

One cannot compensate for one tragedy by bringing about another.

Joe

Loudmouth there are areas in this that people do not want to go near, or want others to even try to explore.

Various road blocks are put in place, that stop exploration and examination of the processes involved, that may or may not lead up to a crime being committed.

For example a man may behave in certain way with one woman who finds that type of behaviour acceptable, and then he comes across another female who finds his behaviour to be unacceptable.

Given the research finds that what women find attractive in a male, can vary depending on what part of her cycle she is in.

There is also the physiological responses that can occur under certain circumstances, for example women who attracted to men on death row in America or career criminals with violent histories.

Bettina in her book the sex diaries, wrote about a man who was sick of intiating sex, so stopped, and as a consequence hasn't had sex for a number of years.

There is a paradox, where some women both desire and resent male attention. Some women do admitt that if their partner "doesn't try" they feel that their partner nolonger finds them attractive and feel rejected, even though it is much more likely that it is the male who will have his approaches rejected.

Barbara Leckie in her paper on the bullying tactics of school girls found that one of the methods used, was to spread bad, false stories about another, as well as revealing confidences.

<Bullies feel entitled to use their power over others when their aggressive tactics are rewarded and reinforced or left unchecked at home, with friends, in the classroom, on the playing field, in digital games, on television> Eeva Sodhi

Leckie also found that female bullies justify their behaviour by saying that 'they deserve it' or 'were asking for it'.

There was a wonderful blog about bitter single females, written by a female(it nolonger exists) it basically showed that during coffee or drinks, nights out, that these women would dump on men. Basically talking about the negative characteristic of men.

<If other men didn’t commit these offences then other men would not be falsely accused.>Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 2:27:52 AM

this is possibly true, but however all the attention is focused on catching and punishing men who happen to commit a crime.

Nobody is out there teaching young heterosexual males, how they can get their needs met without becoming a criminal.

Even if a male is getting his needs met with the willing consent of a female, he still can become a criminal very easily.

Basically there are many shades of grey in human behaviour.

<Women confide in women about these things they don’t sit around and talk to men about it. From what I’ve seen and heard from women young and old and from all walks of life I actually think the sheer number of these crimes would be staggering.Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 2:27:52 AM>

Darren Blacksmith wrote this article.
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/38333/20031110-0000/www.kittennews.com/kn_mag/06_jun03mag/warrior_07.htm

<Vast swathes of working environments are now practically all female, and they can be pretty hostile for a man to enter.>

<To witness a woman flirting with a male delivery man to get what she wants, then making bitchy comments about him just after he’s gone is to understand how much crueler and duplicitous women can be than men.>

Wendy MCElroy at Ifeminists, wrote

<The mother of all feminist myths on campuses today is that one in four female students has been the victim of rape or attempted rape. So states the conservative Independent Women's Forum in a recent advertisement in student newspapers across the country. The ad referred to feminism as a "cult" and warned that anyone who believed two or more of the ten listed myths might need "deprogramming." The backlash was swift.>

The power of nightmares
http://hereticalsex.blogspot.com/2008/03/power-of-nightmares.html

<describes how those who seek power invoke fear in the population in order to present themselves as the rescuers. "All men are rapists and that's all they are" is a good example of that tactic in use. >

Hence demonizing men, or taking an issue and grossly exaggerating the extent of the problem, whilst at the same time minimizing or dismissing issues that affect men, or even the negative consequences to human relationships.

Another part of the tactic, is, I don't if anyone has noticed, but feminist claims are now turning up in the scripts on shows like DSI etc, a subtle form of brainwashing and propaganda process.

Hitler, Stalin (Communism) both used this technique in films.

The next tactic to either accuse people who try to explore the issues and look behind the feminist rethoric as being misongynists, or to make personal attacks.

JAMES H

The fact that the stripper was found not guilty just demonstrates how hard it is to get convictions in these cases if the victim is found to have agreed to be in the presence of the rapist under what the jury considers to be morally dubious circumstances.

The man agreed to particpate in what the jury would see as a consenting sexual game and actually removed his clothing. The same moral judgement that women are subjected to if they happen to have trustingly gone to a man’s room or invited him into their room after a happy night out.

You don’t see the man as guilty in these rape cases yet you are incensed by the jury applying the same moral judgement when it is a man who does not receive justice. Why is that?

It just proves what I have been saying about men being aquitted time and time again by juries when in fact a huge percentage of them are guilty.