alison graham,

david singer is absolutely correct. There are no 1967 borders. These are armistice lines ... not borders.

Thank God for people like David and Danielle who cut through the BS. Keep telling the truth and maybe those who hide behind bizarre handles will finally understand - maybe not because that takes intelligence.

Danielle,

The same placards were placed all around the Israeli borders from 1949 to 1967 - with Egypt (including Gaza), Jordan (including the West Bank), Syria and Lebanon:

"Halt! Border ahead!"

If the Israeli government thought there was any difference between its borders with the west bank and its borders with Lebanon, it would have placed different placards, perhaps "Halt! armistice line ahead!", but no, they were all the same.

Yuyutsu,

Semantics are used in media; often semiotics. We see this everyday.

These armistice lines are not internationally recognised borders. They have no legal currency under international law. Until the territories involved come to an agreement, there are no borders.

This does not say I agree with Israel crossing the Green Line. But isn't it time for there to be a decision? Sixty years ... one-hundred and sixty ... it could go on infinitum.

Indeed, in Gazan schoolbooks, there is no Israel.

Danielle,

You gave the answer yourself: don't wait 160 years or until the sides agree - let the United Nations resolve in all formality that the Green Line is Israel's border. I am sure there will be an overwhelming majority for that decision. That will also take care of David's use of legal cavities.

What happens beyond Israel's borders can be resolved at a later date, but don't expect it to be resolved by talking because both sides are controlled and suffer under unrelenting fanatics whom they have no ability to shake off.

Ideally, Israel should offer amnesty to the Jewish settlers, compensate those among them who wish to return home, then leave the hard-core of the settlers to their own devices, beyond its borders. The hard-core settlers will then form their own militia, fight the Hamas, and hopefully their strength will just-about match, so they both annihilate each other, then and only then will peace be possible.

Yuyutsu,

For the most part I absolutely agree. I believe that the UN should do this in concert with Israel. Remember, though, just a few years ago, when there was discussion about UN peace keepers setting up between Israel and Palestinian territories, the Hamas said they would regard them as invaders and kill them accordingly.

Are the hard-core settlers on Gaza's Hamas side? I doubt it.

If you mean by 'unrelenting fanatics', whom I take you to mean, they are bound by their beliefs not to bear arms, they do not contribute to Israel's purse through labour/businesses, nor pay taxes, and apparently are not very good neighbours to anyone ... other Israelis ... whomever ...

I believe they go through a lot of dirty nappies ...