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Palestine: outing state-sponsored Jew-hatred : Comments

By David Singer, published 17/12/2010

If Brazil were to have its way, 500,000 Jews would have to leave their homes, or be removed.

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I am not an anthropologist, but it would seem that these diverse backgrounds may go some way to understanding why Palestinians don't act as one people; why opportunistic outsiders can enter, manipulate and exploit them.

As for those in Gaza, they don't speak the Arabic spoken on the West Bank, their familial and economic ties (such as they are) are with Egypt.

The world has witnessed the bloody internal divisions within Palestinian society/ies. It would seem that until they can come together as one, they certainly can't make any valid and lasting moves for peace with, and acceptance of Israel as a legitimate state. Israel is a haven of peace in comparison with the West Bank and Gaza.
Posted by Danielle, Friday, 24 December 2010 11:36:39 PM
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Posted by david singer, Saturday, 25 December 2010 6:35:53 AM
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Posted by david singer, Saturday, 25 December 2010 7:02:28 AM
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The idea of establishing a common enemy (frequently imaginary) to manipulate people has ancient roots - indeed, today it is even used in advertising and business.

The Palestinian leadership has done this effectively with their people, diverting them from their criminal activites and embezzlement of public funds. The leadership has used sophisticated media and hate filled rhetoric.

By all media, Hamas laud the virtues of martyrdom, even for children. If members within their communities don’t comply with the standard line, then the Hamas response is swift and deadly.

If the Palestinians had accepted the state of Israel, with both living at peace with each other, how greatly would the Palestinians have benefited and prospered. Emir Faisal recognised this as early as 1919.

Where are the courageous Palestinians who also recognise this? There are no peoples on earth, where a number don't question their governments. Some are prepared to suffer the consequences. Apparently, Palestinians are not. This is a tragedy, not only for Israel, but also for the Palestinians themselves.
Posted by Danielle, Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:12:33 PM
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“#Yuyutsu

I cannot ignore what you have not posted. Now that you have - my responses follow and are posted in two parts

Part 1 :

1. That half the settlers wish they weren't there.

Are you an expert in stereotyping and Jew identification classification?

2. That the other half are there for the purpose of bringing over their Messiah.

Same as reply to 1

3. That they consider the rest of the Israelis as their donkey.

Which half or does this apply to the lot?

4. That they are loyal only to their Rabbis, not to the state of israel.

Do none of "them" (whoever you so classify) serve in the army or go out and collect the body pieces of their fellow citizens blown to smithereens whilst they are shopping or travelling on buses? Do none of them perform non-military duties instead of combat service? You are an empty bag emitting a particularly bad odour.

5. That their provocation against Arabs brings hate and terror to Israel.

Precisely what acts of provocation are you referring to. Are you trying to justify the indiscriminate and targeted killing of jewish and arab civilians?

6. That Israelis spill their blood to protect those settlers.

Israelis spill their blood to protect themselves from being wiped off the face of the earth by Arabs whose charters call for their elimination

( To be continued ...)
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 26 December 2010 1:48:00 PM
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“#Yuyutsu

(continuing my previous response)

Part 2

7. That Israel is condemned by the whole world because of the settlers' actions.

Is it because they have settled in the West Bank in accordance with the rights legally conferred on them? Is there one law for Jews and a different law for Arabs?

8. That the occupation corrupts Israel from within and undermines its moral foundations.

Please particularize.

9. That Israel has in fact accepted the Green-Line as its border, and had the Arabs not attacked in 1967, that would have remained unchallenged.

You may be right. But israel was attacked in 1967 and the arabs defeated. Security council resolution 242 made it clear that israel would not have to withdraw to the green line again. The arabs don't accept the security council resolution The jews don't accept that they have to commit national suicide.

If the arabs want to take another tilt at israel then they may well end up with less than they can get now. Their rejectionist policies displayed for all to see since 1937 indicate they have learned nothing. That is their right and it is your right to encourage them to maintain the rage. It is my right to maintain that you are a dope. Your expressed views on jews living in israel and the west bank give them the hope that their campaign to delegitimize the jewish state is really working and that such a goal can be achieved.

10. That life is not a zero-sum monopoly game.

For the seven million jews living in israel and the west bank it is. Tell me another member of the united nations who is not recognized by other members of the united nations and whose elimination is actively sought by other members of the united nations.

If you are trying to tell us the jewish settlers are the crux of the problem - how come peace was not achieved between 1948-1967 when not one jew lived in the west bank and gaza and a palestinian state could have been created there with the stroke of a pen
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 26 December 2010 1:49:12 PM
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