You are wrong, and you're doing men a dis-service by your aggressive denial of reality. While you choose to ignore the facts, you put people off who'd be on your side. You accuse me of ignoring reports that suit, but then you do worse - because you conveniently read one section of reports that favour your misguided view, that at best, men and women are equally responsible for domestic violence, but also choose NOT to read the rest of that article that points to anomolies or incidents not included.
You omit to mention that the overwhelming majority of the perpetrators of men's violence are other men, frequently strangers, where the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of women's violence are also men, but usually men they know, particularly those they have an intimate/domestic relationship with. So while there are more violent assaults on men, these are either in public places like pubs and clubs, during crimes of violence like robberies etc, or killed and/or injured by police, or as part of 'orientation' practices etc, whereby women's injuries are inflicted in their own home.

Also, women suffer more crimes of sexual abuse than men, and the perpetrator is usually their husband/partner, although there are many by strangers.These women almost always suffer other forms of abuse as well - sexual assaults on men are for example, inflicted as hate crimes by men who are strangers.

Some surveys that assert equal perpetrators don't include sexual violence or the other aspects of domestic violence such as financial, social or more significant, the control and psychological underlying pattern of the relationship. Usually, women's injuries are far more serious than men's and many surveys do not ask whether the injuries attributed by women were in self defence!
Also,many men use their perception of the injustice of the Family Law Court, and frequently take this out by killing all concerned, including their kids! The numbers of kids killed are often hidden due to Laws pertaining to releasing names and particulars of children - even when the perpetrator has been convicted for the murders!

Liz

Why is it so important to for us to decide that men are worse than women? Are you seeing DVs as simply a problem to be fixed or an excuse to look down on men?

Here's a couple of reports that are applicable to this debate. Too many interesting points of clarification! Some people might be interested!

Dobash,%20Myth%20sexual%20Symmetry.pdf

Flood,%Husband%20Battering_O.pdf

I think the first media stuff about the below article came up in this thread awhile ago?

If this is Aussies worst mother I think we’re a bit deluded. Stupid stupid headline.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/is-this-the-worst-mother-in-australia/story-e6freuzi-1225971155157
Is this the worst mother in Australia?
“The woman pleaded guilty to two counts of neglect but a statement tendered to court revealed she showed "no remorse" and at one point even tried blaming her daughter for not wanting to wear a hat, despite later admitting the toddler did not own one.

Some new research coming out of France shows that the rate of mothers killing newborn babies is some 5 times higher than previously thought.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/lifestyle/lifematters/mothers-fear-of-abandonment-motivates-killing-of-newborns-20101214-18wwh.html

"A team of paediatricians examined the court records of known infant homicides in three regions of France between 1996 and 2000 and found almost one third were cases of neonaticide, where the child was killed by their parent, often the mother, during the first day of their life.

The study found an average of 2.1 newborns were killed per 100,000 live births, while the official mortality statistics showed the rate of neonaticide was only 0.39 for the same regions.
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Of the 27 cases studied, 18 of the mothers were identified. In cases where the mothers were known, all the women concealed their pregnancy from their friends and family, and all but three gave birth secretly and alone.

Most of the mothers were employed and lived with the child's father. The most common cause of the newborn's death was asphyxiation."

and "''Neonaticide thus appears as a solution when an unwanted pregnancy risks creating a family scandal, or the loss of a satisfying lifestyle.''

Fear of abandonment and immaturity rather than obvious mental illness or social disadvantage were key drivers for neonaticide, said the authors, from France's National Institute of Health and Medical Research."

So basically, the study is saying that lifestyle is such an important consideration for lots of women that they are prepared to kill their babies to maintain it. Does anyone really think they wouldn't also be prepared to lie to a court for the same reason?

Antiseptic you might want to rethink the "lots of women" comment remembering that the numbers quoted are at "2.1 newborns were killed per 100,000 live births".

Across the world that would translate to lot's but as a proportion of the population it's small.

R0bert