Roscop your comment about the hot dinner reads as though you are suggesting that a women who did not get the hot dinner on the table on time deserve a thump.

A view of "male control" and DV that those determined to pretend that DV and control are male issues rather than human issues have been pushing for a long time.

"It could be seen from their behavior that they were a partnership and their individual efforts were seen to be for the good of the family." - I grew up in a home like that. Both parents worked together for us all.

I don't think women have a monopoly on being selfish in relationship's, men are quite capable of doing the same things.

R0bert

R0bert:"I don't think women have a monopoly on being selfish in relationship's, men are quite capable of doing the same things."

Of course you're right. What's different today is that women seem to be demanding the exclusive right to behave badly, even demading that if they do behave badly and a man reacts, it must be his fault.

There is no incentive for a man to be in a committed relationship unless he wants shildren and even that is becoming a marginal justification given the likely outcome of marriages and the consequences that will flow if children are involved.

My sense is that roscop was merely expressing his own frustration with the social disaster that Feminism has created.

How many of you who laugh at the stats I've given read any? I suggest none to a few. Watch/listen to the news for just one week, and you'll see very clearly who the most violent people in the community are.
Regardless of the individual cases of women's violence against men, the violence by men toward their wives/partners has been accepted for too long as just being 'family business'?
Finally, the violence towards women doesn't stop when women reach senior years. Sadly, much of this is from their own kids, who try and steal money, property etc, usually by their widowed or single aged mothers.
The Attorney's General around the country agree that crimes of violence against women are perpetrated mainly by men, cover all types of assaults; that govts must intervene to remove women and kids from the violence, and to bring the perpetrators to justice.
In my case, I put up with it for over 20 yrs as there were no family benefits; no areas of support for women and kids; women were not encouraged to be in the workforce or education, and my kids deserved some form of security, education etc.In short, out of love for my kids, I had to put up with it - there was also the hope for change? None arrived!
So, those who say that there's been no progress are ill-informed. I hope, that one day, to hit a woman, denigrate her; belittle her and threaten her with the loss of her kids, or to kill her pets etc will be treated with the same disgust as driving a car while drunk!
If men resent the money spent by govts; support groups etc, do what us women had to do for over 30 years - get off your bum and start your own - we did!
People who are genuinely against violence would support these 16 days awareness on the prevention of violence against their mothers, daughters, sisters and wives and girlfriends. Those who are ardently against; who try and 'muddy' the waters with unsubstantiated 'stories' are losing ground.

Antiseptic "My sense is that roscop was merely expressing his own frustration with the social disaster that Feminism has created."

That's about where I got to which is why I ignored it earlier.
Unfortunately those kind of comments play to the stereotypes which the gender warriors so love.

Liz I think most of us are already way too familiar with the advocacy stats supporting a genderised view of DV and the dishonest tricks used to create them. We are also familiar with the trick of discussing DV in the broadest possible terms then when pressed falling back to the small portion of DV at the extreme end of the scale where women do suffer more than men.

A simple rewording of part of your post say's it much better than your sexist rant.

"I hope, that one day, to hit a partner, denigrate them; belittle them and threaten them with the loss of their kids, or to kill their pets etc will be treated with the same disgust as driving a car while drunk!"

R0bert

"I hope, that one day, to hit a partner, denigrate them; belittle them and threaten them with the loss of their kids, or to kill their pets etc will be treated with the same disgust as driving a car while drunk!"

Luckily we have already reached that day! In Australia, representative community surveys show that most people in the community have a broad understanding of domestic and sexual violence and its impacts, and do not condone it (VicHealth 2010). The majority of respondents also consider violence against women to be a serious issue. It is true that a small minority of people in the community hold attitudes supportive of violence against women, but a similar minority also hold attitudes supportive of violence against men (VicHealth 2010, National Crime Prevention 2001).

References:

Victorian Health Promotion Foundation (VicHealth) (2010, March). National survey on community attitudes to violence against women 2009. Carlton: Victorian Health Promotion Foundation (VicHealth). Retrieved September 20, 2010, from http://www.vichealth.vic.gov.au/~/media/ResourceCentre/PublicationsandResources/ NCAS_CommunityAttitudes_report_2010.ashx

National Crime Prevention (2001). Young people and domestic violence: National research on young people's attitudes to and experiences of domestic violence. Barton: Attorney-General's Dept. Retrieved September 21, 2009, from http://www.crimeprevention.gov.au/agd/WWW/ncphome.nsf/Page/Publications

@Antiseptic - What is your view of feminism? Mine is the struggle to achieve justice and equality for women. Nobody can argue that it exists now. If you follow the news for just one week, you'll learn who are worse at committing crimes of violence - they're men!I challenge you to follow the media for a week and keep a record.

The changes brought about by feminists have all been positive and just, regardless of what area of life you want to mention - but it's only the beginning. My frustration is often at young women who think the need to be vigilant, let alone continue the struggle is no long er required - not true. While women are depicted as sex objects;while women are kept or sold for slavery, sexual and other; while violence is the greatest threat to womens' lives, and while men think that they have a divine right to 'take sex' or diminish women and girls, feminism has still got a long way to go.
Some men feel threatened by any progress made by women. Some men think, that if women are treated as equal human beings, they'll lose something valuable to them. Nobody has come up with just one good example where this has happened.
I raised my 3 sons with the belief, that women were not put on this planet for their use and benefit. That it's OK, desirable even, to have women as friends, and that violence has never resolved anything!