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Gender-based Approach Misses the Mark in Tackling Family Violence : Comments

By Roger Smith, published 25/11/2010

On White Ribbon Day, we condemn violence against women. We should also condemn it against men.

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It is also mindful to realise,that there's a tendancy of ownership by males over females that very rarely is shown by women.Domestic Violence is not just phsyical or sexual.It involves refusing to allow a woman to seek employment;to visit family members or friends; destroying or threatening to destroy her belongings including family pets(who are frequently attacked as 'punishment'). In many cases,the woman is incapable of doing any physical(without a weapon) harm due to her size. I tried to retaliate a couple of times, but that only resulted in such a whack around the head that it either precipitated a migraine or a really painful head, or me ending up flat on my back with a painful thud(as long as nobody could see him do it?). He was much bigger and stronger than I.Strictly speaking I assaulted him, but only to defend myself.I learnt pretty quickly,that it was futile and only put me at risk of serious injury or death.
In company of friends etc he was a calm, rational person. House a**e-hole street angel!A coward and a bully!
Posted by Liz45, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:56:09 PM
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Liz you seem to be a font of sexist statistics and anecdotal views convenient to women but lacking in balance.

"that there's a tendancy of ownership by males over females that very rarely is shown by women." - I wonder how many men would agree with that one. Possibly relevant in some other cultures but certainly a big whopper in modern western culture.

Did Rudd happen to mention how many men were assaulted by intimate partners during that period? Did he happen to mention how many had been so socialised to accept being assaulted or controlled by their partner's that they considered it normal? Did he happen to mention how often intimate partner violence is mutual? Did he happen to spend any time discussing how often women assault men and their children?

Your script so far looks like the standard approach of start with feminist/paternalistic assumptions about power in the home, ask questions which will confirm those assumptions and don't worry about the ones which don't fit. Treat the results as facts and as though they are the whole picture.

Few modern families actually fit the 1950's stereotypes.

The gendered approach to family violence perpetuates violence and in some cases worsens it by denying around half the physical violence (and I've not seen any serious work on who does what in controlling behavior's) . If you are a male with a violent spouse the official message still seems to be that it's Ok, you probably deserve it anyway or you should be big enough to sort it out.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 1:13:14 PM
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Liz45, I think you make a mistake when you ask people to believe that statistics derived from results driven surveys on highly politicized matters like violence against women, are facts.

FACT noun
Definition:
1. something known to be true: something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened
2. truth or reality of something: the truth or actual existence of something, as opposed to the supposition of something or a belief about something
based on fact
3. piece of information: a piece of information, e.g. a statistic or a statement of the truth
4. law actual course of events: the circumstances of an event or state of affairs, rather than an interpretation of its significance
Matters of fact are issues for a jury, while matters of law are issues for the court.
5. law something based on evidence: something that is based on or concerned with the evidence presented in a legal case

So you got hit around the head when you tried to retaliate. Where were you hit before you tried to retaliate? Wouldn’t it have been easier just to have his still hot dinner on the table when he got home from work?
Posted by Roscop, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 1:43:30 PM
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" Wouldn’t it have been easier just to have
his still hot dinner on the table when he got home from work?"

What?

Surely this is a troll.
If it's not, Roscop has in one fell swoop undone
the good work in this thread by those who have
presented reasonable arguments against White Ribbon Day's
exclusive focus on male violence against women.
Posted by talisman, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 1:57:13 PM
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"Strictly speaking I assaulted him, but only to defend myself."

Defend yourself from what? If it was physical assault then you probably were not the assailant. If you threw the first blows then you were not defending yourself.

If you did in fact assault him and he had been one of the vast majority of men who will either never hit back or not hit back until all other avenues of stopping an assault by a female have been exhausted then the cowardly act would most definitely have been yours.

It's just as cowardly and low to assault someone who is not allowed to return in kind as it is to assault someone who is physically incapable of doing so.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 1:59:40 PM
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Liz

Of course you don't notice controlling behavior from men. The behaviour that gets men labelled controlling earns women praise for their "assertiveness".
Posted by benk, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 6:13:00 PM
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