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Gender-based Approach Misses the Mark in Tackling Family Violence : Comments

By Roger Smith, published 25/11/2010

On White Ribbon Day, we condemn violence against women. We should also condemn it against men.

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Pbviously the White Ribbon people would be better accepted in India, where it is apparently acceptable for women to gang up and hit men for the crime of riding in the wrong train carriage.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/men-in-womenonly-metro-forced-to-sit--up-20101129-18cn3.html

Hold on, I thought that women in the "third world" were all down-trodden victims of violent men?

What's all that about?
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 29 November 2010 8:10:47 AM
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Lesson in logic:
All humans are capable of violence and all violence is to be condemned.
War, crime, morbidity and mortality statistics indicate that men are more likely to experience violence against them than are women.
War, crime, morbidity and mortality statistics indicate that men are more likely to perpetrate violence against others than are women.
Reducing men's use of violence against all other people would reduce wars, and the majority of homicides, assaults, rapes and death-threats. Reducing women's use of violence against all other people would have virtually no impact on war, and relatively minimal impact on the incidence of homicides, assaults, rapes and death-threats.
A focus on violence reduction and prevention means a focus on the majority of serious perpetrators, who are overwhelmingly men. Men will benefit enormously from reducing men's violence. Men will benefit relatively minimally from reducing women's violence. The hilarious illogic of debates like this is that men imagine that screaming 'women are violent too' is supposed to somehow make men less violent??
Posted by mog, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:54:37 AM
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Mog, you are absolutely correct, in that a focus on violence reduction and prevention OVERALL means a focus on the majority of serious perpetrators, who are overwhelmingly men. This is something that the White Ribbon Campaign fails to do. The White Ribbon Campaign does NOT advocate for reducing men's (overall) use of violence. It advocates for reducing men's violence against WOMEN ONLY (when, as you correctly state, most violence by men is against other men).

However, there is always room for targeting sub-groups in any public health or social change campaign. For example, instead of targeting all cancer sufferers there are legitimate campaigns and support groups for breast cancer, prostate cancer, bowel cancer, etc.

There is a genuine need to prevent relationship violence (also called family violence, domestic violence, or intimate partner violence). This violence makes up just a small percentage of violence overall but it is important because of the severe impacts on the physical and mental health of victims, and because it is often hidden behind closed doors. When it comes to this form of violence, men make up one third to one half of victims. And the perpetrators of this form of violence against men are one-half to two-thirds female. Reducing relationship violence by women will have the biggest impact upon male victims of relationship violence.

Likewise, there is a genuine need to prevent violence against children (also called child abuse and neglect). This violence is important because the victims are in most cases vulnerable and unable to protect themselves. The perpetrators of this form of violence are also one-half to two-thirds female. Reducing violence by women will have the biggest impact upon child victims of violence.

Another part of the White Ribbon Campaign's message - as well as violence reduction and prevention - is that victims of violence need support. A focus on supporting victims of violence means a focus on the majority of victims, who are overwhelmingly men. This is something that the White Ribbon Campaign also fails to do.
Posted by percusso, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 1:09:51 PM
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Reducing men's use of violence against all other people will not reduce wars until women are allowed to serve in all combat roles alongside men, and until all voters (equally male and female) who vote to send armies off to war stop doing so. You will note that in societies that have no external threat of invasion (like some islander communities), both men and women are peaceful and non-violent. Men don't create wars. The need for survival creates the need for protection, and society has deemed men to be the protectors for obvious reasons (sending women to war would have more negative impacts on children than sending men to war). Once a society socialises one gender (men) to be more violent than the other (women) in order to protect it, of course such violence spills over into other social arenas such as those you have outlined above.
Posted by percusso, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 1:10:13 PM
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@vanna-That is just rubbish.IN his speech on WRD last year, Kevid Rudd then PM stated REAL statistics via the Time For Action report;

"Over their lifetimes,almost one in five Australian women will be sexually assaulted, almost one in three will be physically assaulted. Almost 1 in 4 chilren in Australia will witness violence against their mother or stepmother, Less than one third of victims will report it."
In the previous 12 months,women who experienced physical assault, ABS stats showed that;
31% were attacked by a current or former male partner;
28% by a male family member or friend; and
15% by a male stranger.
Posted by Liz45, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:25:29 PM
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I suggest that all people read the results of a survey, The National Community Attitudes Towards Violence against Women - 2009. It was conducted by VicHealth, in partnership with the Australian Insitute of Criminology and Social Research Centre. 10,000 Australians were surveyed:women and men in equal numbers.
The facts are, that women suffer violence almost always by their intimate partner, as opposed to men who suffer violence usually by other men, including strangers.The injuries sustained by women in dv assaults are of a more serious nature than those of men. In fact, the greatest threat to the health and safety of women from 18-49 are from their partner/husband.
In the broad sense,the authority in our society is held by men. It is safer for men to walk the streets alone than it is for women. There are over 20 million slaves in the world, most are women and kids. Women do a large part of the work, but only have less than 2% of the world's wealth. When you have such descepancies such as these,oppression is the result. We have an ingrained culture of violence of all types in this country; much of it results in physical and sexual violence towards women and their children.There have been too many incidents of male sportspeople's assault on women, and yet they are too frequently defended by their peers, officials and sadly mainstream media!
Posted by Liz45, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:37:31 PM
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