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Parliamentarians should have a conscience vote on gay marriage : Comments

By Rodney Croome, published 1/11/2010

For often perverse reasons our parliamentary institutions have failed to keep pace with public opinion on gay marriage.

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"Are you suggesting that Mohammed raped his 9 year old wife Aisha?
That's not very multicultural of you."
-Proxy

Yes. It might be upsetting to some folk, but it is the truth. Children can't give consent, so any sexual act is, by definition, rape.

"Is bestiality rape if the animal doesn't object?"
-Proxy

Yes, bestiality is always rape. Animals, like children, are incapable of giving consent. Consent is very different to an absence of dissent.

"The human body does not require anal/rectal trauma."
-Proxy

It doesn't require heterosexual intercourse either - nobody has ever died from a lack of sex. On the other hand, a lot of heterosexual people have died from sexually contracted AIDS and syphilis and so forth. By your logic, heterosexual intercourse should be treated the same way as homosexual intercourse - neither is required for good health, and both have significant potential harm attached to them.

"Too bad our society doesn't warn against the dangers of homosexual behaviour."
-Proxy

Is this another lie, or are you just high? Every child in the country receives sex education in school, where the dangers of homosexual (and heterosexual) behaviour are firmly drilled into them. On top of that there are a whole slew of government and non-government organisations pushing the safe sex message. Just 'coz their approach to risk reduction is different to yours (safe sex instead of abstinence) doesn't mean they're not warning against the dangers and trying to promote better health.

"Any chance you can prove how excessive water consumption is bad for the body?"
-jinny

Hyponatraemia. Google it.

"and by the way.. AIDS and cancer was manufactured by governments"
-jinny

ROFLMAO. Huzzah! for paranoiacs keeping us all amused.
Posted by Riz, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:14:41 AM
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Proxy,

“Religion, like atheism, has nothing to do with it.
I embrace neither ideology.”

Atheism is not an ideology any more than not believing in fairies is. Because there is some common thought in Atheism, such as recognising the flaws in certain parts of religion, which infringe on human rights, that is no different from you recognising that wife beating is a bad idea. Ideology has nothing to do with it. It’s being able to recognise what is just.

This linking of Atheism with some kind of infered ‘evil’ ideology is pure fundamentalism and of course, it is bunkum.

It is interesting you state you don’t follow an ideology called religion. I guess that is the old canards of all the other religions are wrong but your idea of a god (From the Bible) is correct. That is an original thought, not!

Now, I could be wrong and you are not religious at all but if you weren’t such a sneak, I would know.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:27:39 AM
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Proxy wrote: “Religion, like atheism, has nothing to do with it. I embrace neither ideology.”

So you’re telling us that you’re not a theist, and you’re not, not a theist?

How does that make any sense?

Anyway Proxy, I had already explained to you that atheist wasn’t a belief system (or ideology)...
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10321#169607

Just goes to show you don’t really listen to anyone.

You’re really pushing poo uphill if you want to claim that you’re not a theist while making the same stupid mistakes as them.
Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:46:40 AM
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The reason Church'es are increasingly persecuted and marginalized by the Gay lobby is very straightforward.

God condemns homosexual behavior as follows:

Rom 1:26

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

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You cannot remove this reality unless you remove the Churches.
Bob Browns communist Greens are making a good effort to do so... but over time, I think people will wake up to their nefarious scheme which after all.. serves the marital/sexual interests of one Bob Brown first and foremost.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:33:43 PM
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<<You’re really pushing poo uphill...>>
What a wonderfully apt metaphor in the context of a discussion on homosexual "marriage"!
Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 7:31:32 PM
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Proxy,

Instead of hanging around looking for some comment to which you can make a smart-arse response, how about answering the cacophony of objections to your bigoted outlook.

I would like you to start with what you would say to an auditorium filled with people fromhttp://www.thepotentialweddingalbum.org/supporters/.

Guess you are too gutless to do even this in a hypothetical sense.

I wonder who successfully screwed with your mind to bring such a pathetic outlook about humanity. You can change you know, but it takes a conscious effort.

Of course, if you are beyond changing, it could mean sociopathic tendencies have you in its grip. It certainly looks that way.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 7:45:21 PM
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