bach: << I think once the connection between sex and procreation is broken then sex seizes to be a full expression of love between to people and is degenerated to an act of lust to only satisfy the senses. In this society sex has become to a great extent nothing more but lust and perversion. >>

While you're entitled to your beliefs, what gives you the right in a secular society to attempt to impose your prudish beliefs on others, i.e. homosexual people? Anybody who uses their Christian morality to try and influence the law is no different to those misguided Muslims who would like to impose Sharia law on the rest of us.

I'm heterosexual, and I stopped having sex for the purpose of procreation about 20 years ago, but I still have what most people would regard as a healthy sex life with my partner - to whom I'm not married (shock! horror!). I find your holier-than-thou attitude far more offensive than the notion of a committed gay couple adopting a child.

You need to realise that your attitude to sex is very much a minority one in Australian society, and in a democracy you have no right to to try and impose it on the rest of us.

Bach,

"I think once the connection between sex and procreation is broken then sex seizes to be a full expression of love between to people"

So I guess that using contraceptive also damns you to hell. I assume that you never use such dirty devices?

CJ Morgan i'm not here to enforce my views on you buddy... and i don't really care about your sex life. My point of separating sex from the possibility of conception remains. As i stated earlier it limits the expression of love that two married people should have towards each other. The fact that you're not married to a person you've been with for 20 years may indicate that you never had enough love or respect for her to offer the rest of your life to her. You may walk out on her tomorrow or she may do the same. You may both have had other people in your lives at the same time. It's a bit sick to me and yes you're quite right i am a bit sickened by it.

Bach, what a bizarre outlook you have, on the meaning of love between two people.
As what you are saying, is that love only applies when two people are breeding, when that ceases, so does their love for each other if they dare have sex.
By chance do you own a puppy farm!

bach, your odd views on sex are your own opinion. Fair enough, but to argue that those who don't share it should be subject to your prudish morality - as you do with respect to gay adoption - is rather arrogant.

Your conjecture about my relationship is both false and spiteful. While I'm not "sickened" by your sanctimonous bile, you really are no advertisement for your faith.

No wonder people are deserting your version of Christianity in droves.

Within the heterosexual communities, and when I say communities I mean that amongst this disposition, there are a large variety of “styles” of having sex…S&M, conventional missionary, etc. But amongst the heterosexuals, in my entire life (I’m in my 50’s) I’ve never had someone come upon to me and say, “I do it missionary style”, or “I’m into S&M, what about you?”, etc. In other words, people do not advertise their sexual past-time. Secondly, they do not identify themselves by their sexual orientation, but by their name or profession. So what sort of person needs to let everyone know their sexual orientation, let alone that they then need to define themselves by it? The emotionally immature ones, is who. And I include the heterosexuals too.

I’ve lost count of how many gays must make mention of the fact that they’re gay while they’re introducing themselves to me. Yet I’ve never had a heterosexual introduce themselves to me as a heterosexual. The immature heterosexuals have other ways of informing you of their immaturity.

Admittedly, this is my experience with the more flamboyantly natured gays & lesbians. I’ve also met and worked with people that I would never guess were gay, but only found out by conversation over a long period of time and getting to know them, for they had no need to advertise and be flamboyant in such an immature way, nor did they have the need to identify themselves by their sexuality. I’m not including those that were somewhat fearful to disclose, for of course, those too I have met.

TBC...