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Whose rights are they anyway? The children's? : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 3/9/2010

Same s*x adoption. Are children just guinea pigs in this radical social experiment?

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I read a report that long-term research has shown nearly 50% of galahs to be homosexual. Gay galahs form lifelong pairs and are accepted naturally as a part of the flock. Sometimes, when I read the idiocy of so many humans bleating about "deviant" or "sinful" gays, I think I'd rather be a galah. Pink forever!
Posted by crabsy, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:23:43 PM
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Being homosexual does not preclude you from loving, caring, or being a responsible parent. The law cannot take children from their natural parents because they are homosexual, nor should they give guardianship of others children to homosexuals.

Kipp you can proffer 1000 reports about kids coping well in a same sex relationship, but it does not alter the fact that the child will have to explain or hide the make up of their family as a pre cursor all their lives. The psychological effect of the taunts and alienation by their peers will rob the potential of the Childs character; it has robbed many adults who suffered bullying and isolation during their school years for a lot less in social terms.

Those who would bequeath this social burden on an orphan child are doing the child no favours, and at the base of it the adult is fulfilling a want of theirs, at the cost of the Childs psychological future. I am not saying that all children from such relationships are emotionally impaired, but a percentage is. I rationalise it as I do the death penalty, if one innocent dies the cost is too much, if one child suffers the cost of the adult’s freedom to adopt is too much.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:28:42 PM
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Tilly J asks:

I don't understand why people are against the love of two people?

Welllll -let me put you 'straight'

We have NOTHing against 2 people loving each other. Zero..

The issue is:

a) What KIND of 'love'
b) Whether 'that' kind of 'love' is appropriate for an innocent child to be exposed to.

Any child grows up knowing that 'babies' come from a mummy and a daddy... for that poor victimized child to have '2 daddies' or 2 mummies thrust upon him/her without any choice in the matter is abuse of the most heinous kind.

On the one hand they know "I came into the world from a mummy and a daddy"..but then the look at "But how come I've got 2 daddies and why do they sleep together and kiss each other like boys and girls do?"

It's immoral, it's nefarious, it's disgusting and if you want to get theological it's an abomination before God.

I don't think this kind of issue will be solved by persuasion.. it will be the rubber meets the road of gut wrenching politics.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:35:03 PM
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CJ Morgan:>> in my experience as a former anthropologist the supposedly "natural" nuclear family is a relatively recent invention. In many cultures there are numerous people besides their biological parents that children call "father" or "mother", or with whom they have a defined equivalent relationship to what most Westerners would regard as parent-child kinship. Indeed, anthropological literature is full of it.<<

CJ and as a former anthropologist you would understand that the social morays of any society is particular to that society and the times. We are in the nuke family era mum, dad, two kids, the concept is alien to our society regardless of historic societal morays, don't you think.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:39:05 PM
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Bayne and Crabsy, at least CJMorgan only referred to an African tribe as our guide. Your mention of penguins and galahs takes the silliness even further.

The bodies of 93% of females and males are designed by nature to fit together for the purpose of procreation and child rearing. The sexual activities of gays and lesbians are not normal and do not accord with either natural functions or procreation or child rearing.

End of story.
Posted by David G, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:46:16 PM
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David G and sonofgloin, my point is that there is nothing "natural" about human family structures, as you claimed. I think that's also what Bayne and crabsy were getting at. Your perception that the nuclear family is "natural" is merely a product of your socialisation. As I've pointed out, there are already various non-nuclear family structures in Australian society, and it seems to me that those who are so upset about gay people having kids are really conscripting kids to what is essentially a homophobic cause.

I wouldn't have thought that you guys were sympathetic to this kind of homophobic bulldust:

<< It's immoral, it's nefarious, it's disgusting and if you want to get theological it's an abomination before God. >>

However, you're not as far away from that kind of nonsense as you think. What is it about gay parents that really worries you? Be honest now.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 5 September 2010 8:07:20 PM
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