Crabsy, Bill in the article makes reference to a case where a child was raised in a homosexual environment in which she experienced the abuse as well. So the abuse can come from homosexual environments as well.

We have no control over who 'reproduce'. We do however have control over adoption.

Nate10

<Crabsy, as a Christian maybe you should review what the bible says about homosexuality. Not simply disregard or rewrite the bible because a sin makes you uncomfortable to rally against.>

Don't tell me how to be a Christian! Your authoritarian approach is the very reason why there is so much misery and evil perpetrated in the name of God. The Bible is not a book of rules, and any effort to read it that way will lead to contradictions and grievous errors. It is a window through which we can glimpse flickers of the Divine, but it must not be taken literally.

<Crabsy, Bill in the article makes reference to a case where a child was raised in a homosexual environment in which she experienced the abuse as well. So the abuse can come from homosexual environments as well...We have no control over who 'reproduce'. We do however have control over adoption.>

Well, yes, I have actually read the article for myself. And you have made my very point: homosexuality/heterosexuality is not the issue; the crux of the problem is bad parents irrespective of sexual orientation. So in my (admittedly extreme) scenario any child born to unlicensed parents would be taken away from them.

I'm putting an end to the 'natural' argument. It's very easy to do.

Please can everyone who tries to use 'nature' as an argument actually learn about nature? Cause the ignorance is astonishing embarassing and harmful to understanding.

Look at Ants for example, one of the most successful animals on earth. Do they all reproduce? No. Almost all ants are infertile females with only a tiny minority of reproducing ants in each nest, yet all those infertile females are sure good at raising children! In Evolution this is called Kin Selection, where having non-reproducing relatives looking after your kids is advantageous.

Heck the Gay Penguins alone destroy the 'unnatural' argument, and there's quite a few different animals where same-sex couples often raise orphans!

The evidence for a biological cause for homosexuality, not to mention the transgender gene discoveries, suggests that Kin Selection has been working through human evolution. The reason humans live beyond menopause is considered to be because of the advantage of grandparent child-rearing continuing beyond their fertility. Humans have one of the longest childhoods of the animal world needing many years of care so having members of the community rearing children while not overpopulating the community themselves has been argued to be one of our species greatest advantages.

Same-sex Adoption is found in Nature. Therefore Same-sex Adoption is Natural. Q.E.D.

Sadly, the 'love' that most people claimed in the same sex relationships should have been 'lust' instead.

Lust should be a more appropriate word to use on their 'preferred' perverted life-style. Love is seriously has nothing to do with it.

Thanks Bill, for yet another excellence article.

God bless and keep you.

If some christains think "that children do indeed have a born right to a mother and father" and that children do best when raised by both biological parents then they should be protesting against a god idea which all to often deprives children of that right due to the death of a parent.

I agree that it's best for kids to grow up in a home with biological parents who love one another and create a healthy environment in the home. Unfortunately things don't always go that way (and as a former christian I know it's not always that way in christian homes).

As other have already pointed out for kid's up for adoption that's not going to be an option that's available. Strike that one off the list.

Is the next factor on the list the number of parents involved, the mix of gender's or the character of home the children are growing up in?

I'd bet on the character of the home, do the adults threat each other with respect? Do the parents make the personal sacrifices it takes to raise children?

I've known people raised in extremist christian homes who have spoken of the torment of their upbringing and the strange lives they were forced to lead because of their parents extreme views. Should we ban all christian's from having children (or adopting them) because it's possible to find examples where it's gone wrong? If so what group would be left?

A beat up article based on religious dogma and some flawed arguments.

Perhaps the author can point to some serious research which shows that kid's are better off being raised in a string of foster homes or in seriously dysfunctional heterosexual homes than by gay couples.

R0bert

SH Tan - Your post goes a long way towards explaining why there's such a lot of anti-Christian sentiment around these days.

You aren't doing your cause any good by claiming to know what is and isn't "love."

The problem for me with taking Christians seriously is that so many of you are arrogant or delusional enough to think you know what love is, and who is and isn't capable of feeling it.

As I will continue to say to any Christian who crosses my path - first take the mote out of your own eye, and then you can legitimately turn your attention to the rest of humanity. But as long as all you Christians do not publicly comment on what your churches have done and continue to do to children in your care, you have no right to any voice at all in the morality or otherwise of how the rest of us live our lives. And that goes for the most important of you to the most ordinary.

Just a sentence will do, before you launch into your rigorous judgements of others. Something simple. Like as a Christian I am ashamed and I am sorry for what has been done to the little ones by our churches.

BWT - what's wrong with lust, anyway?