Good points about men?

When they show honesty, integrity, honour, and are not narrow-minded or discriminatory in their outlook.

Indeed, pelican - as if those qualities are gender-specific anyway.

Despite vanna's bleating, in my years of studying and working at universities I found those qualities in abundance in both men and women.

Not that vannakins would know - he's never actually been to a university. I would, however, be quite unsurprised if his ex-wife has a degree, probably in education.

Pelican,
I would think many men are showing honesty, integrity, honour, and are not narrow-minded or discriminatory in their outlook.

As I have posted previously, men write and sing the vast majority of the love songs you hear everyday on the radio, they write most of the love poems and love stories, and yhey make most of the love movies, (even the girlie teenage ones).

They have also built every school and university I am aware of, write most of the text books,and pay most of the costs for running those schools and universities.

Typically, it is almost impossible to find one good thing said about the male gender in any article published by an academic.

And that includes academics in the university, secondary school and primary school systems.

Find that article if you disagree.

C J Morgan,

I have undertaken many courses, two through different universities, and I would rank the university courses as being the most expensive and also the worst courses I have undertaken.

Nothing was learnt from the lecturers, and everything I learnt came from the textbooks I was required to purchase.

Even though the universities referred to themselves as being Australian, all required textbooks were imported.

So much for the so called Australian universities.

"Pelican,
I would think many men are showing honesty, integrity, honour, and are not narrow-minded or discriminatory in their outlook."

vanna
You are the one that wrote the above quote in relation to women. It works both ways. You are hell bent on seeing the worst in women, I only pointed out the same applies for men - we are all responsible for who we are and how we behave. That does not change according to gender.

Men have done many wonderful things as have women. We need to appreciate both.

Pelican,
You can look through all of my posts and point out where I have said something negative about women.

You can also point to the article written by any academic that says something positive about the male gender. The education systems portrays itself as being egalitarian, honest and unbiased, so it shouldn't be too difficult to find an academic from a university, secondary school or primary school who has written an article that says something positive about the male gender (amongst the huge number of articles that portay the male gender negatively, the author's articles included).

So, still waiting for that elusive article written by an Australian academic that says something positive about the male gender.

why am I weighing in here? This has to be the most irritating and half-baked discussion on OLO.

I'm with DougtheBear, just imagine the improvement to our civilisation if men could take pills to 'calm them down'.

Perhaps we wouldn't be in the position we are in currently, where condoms are distributed to 15-year-olds, and girls are encouraged to become 'available' to win over half-hearted pimply boys.

Sex is used as a weapon by BOTH sexes. Unfortunately, it's a war that no-one can win. I wish we could lay our weapons down.

Young people should not be encouraged to drag each other all over town during their 20s... and then be expected to cobble together a functional and happy love/family life in their 30s.

Our society should do so much better with the sex/love equation.

If women do have poor libidos (I've never noticed one) perhaps poor emotional treatment over a lifetime is at the heart of it.