Severin:” Do you treat the women in your life with the same dismissive contempt you use on the female posters on this forum?”
Not at all: I don’t associate with nitwits IRL. Sadly, it’s a bit hard to escape you here.
Severin:” And you wonder why you are called anti-woman”
I spend a great deal more time wondering how people like you manage to feed themselves without a handy teat to suck on. You’re obviously incapable of rational thought, so getting together a meal must be a real struggle.
Styx:” Fathers have been shafted by Family Law in this country and around the western world ,to the detriment of children, for far too long.”
And the victim-riders who make their living out of “helping” children need a constant supply of fresh victims, so they do their best to ensure the situation continues. It’s all about making “work” for themselves; every child damaged is money in the bank.
Pynchme, thank you for the NSW lawlink report. Have a look at Figure 4, which is the robbery rate. It shows the same correlation with single-mother households as the AIC one does. The assault rate continues to climb in NSW.

Moreover, if one looks at the historical data, there is reasonable correlation with the crime rate and the rate of single-mother households. Let’s not forget that they have been with us in large and generally increasing numbers since the 70s, so it is to be expected that some of those damaged children of single mothers are now damaged adults and committing crimes to survive.

Rates of juvenile crime as a proportion of the total population are decreasing, because there are fewer juveniles within the population, proportionally. Rates within the age group, however, have increased.

Pynchme:” there has been an overall reduction in crime during the past 20 years or so “
What are you on? None of the reports say anything like that. We already knew you were dishonest and sociopathic, there’s no need to keep showing us.

The rest of your post is deluded.

Puynchme
Dont lie but how about being subjective.

FL in Aust has been an exercise in financial aggression tempered with sexism.

When you can display an unbiased opinion on that I may consider that you have the right to make comments about childrens relationship with their parents.

I cant believe we're still going.

Still putting antiseptic on trial, charged with being am abusive husband and father. All because he doesn't agree any bloke accused of being abusive should be stripped of any access to kids, and believes in a starting point of shared custody.

pynchme I thought a feminists would be all in favour of shared parenting. I mean, I get that in the feminists eyes any man who is accused of abuse is guilty as he's just acting his gender, and any women accused of abuse is innocent (She's a nurturing mother!) and even if guilty just needs help and support for her mental illness and addiction problems.

But on a higher level, don't feminists want men to share the burden of child raring? Don't you want more house husbands and women providers? Don't you want it recognised that men should be capable of bringing up children? Don't you want the stereotypes of gender roles to be crushed, allowing women to take on all those CEO jobs while their husbands stay at home.

Well, this is the start. Recognising men's equal rights to be primary carers, or at the very least 50% responsible for the caring and bringing up of children, rather than just a pay packet.

Don't you want men to be able to break out of their gender role of outward aggression. To help them, allow them to show weakness so they can get help for their mental illness and addiction problems like women can, rather than just hardening them further by breaking the emotional ties they have with their children, making them even more angry and frustrated.

Or do you rather just want to continue the propaganda that men are just naturally controlling and violent to further your goals of maintaining the abusive man/victim woman dichotomy?

Yay! Antiseptic, Finally, inside the drivel, selective stats, ignorance, pontification, love of your own voice, adulation of those who know even less, abusing those who know more - you were right!

There are more male victims of violence - by males.

Even if your narrow ideology can only extend to concern for males, is placing a boy-child with a dangerous, abusive, drug-using, alcoholic PARENT OK? If you could move that far this discussion might have a point.

The BB campaign was only EVER about children's safety and the way these types of cases were being treated in the FMC and the FC, twist it as much as you like. Shared care may work in the 80% of cases where courts are not needed and I applaud that. I doubt it's going to be in the child's best interest always but whats a few more tragedies hey?

All the recent studies identified that the laws were not working for children where violence had been or was a factor. I'm not going to quote the studies - look them up and read them.

While you and your backscratchers applaud each other on your feeble posts, who is looking after the abused children? Or is it a case of 'I'm alright Jack' so too bad, because 'she dun me wrong is my life's theme song!

Thank you for calling me a feminist. A badge I wear with pride. It doesn't mean that I agree with any or everything all women do, and it doesn't mean I engage in this obviously terrifying 'I hate men' threat you throw at us. If it took feminists to identify violence and abuse was unacceptable, good on them. And as for us being paedophiles - did you watch Four Corners last night? Not a single mum in sight.

Or am I now to be castigated for my attemtps to discover whether you have any sympathy for any victims of abuse and crime in your quest to denigrate these alleged 'victim-riders' - those people who after centuries of unpaid work, may now receive payment. Wicked folk, damn feminists.

Goodness gracious me, what have I wrought here on OLO?

I criticised a male while being female.

How could I have not known my place, remained (as all good women should) silent and not comment on Antiseptic's predictable generalisation on the behaviour of women? I am sure that in Anti's 'real' life the women-folk know their place.

When will I learn that all women simply want to leech off men, produce children for their personal use and abuse and generally bring about the apocalypse of the human race? Because that is the only explanation for this appalling female behaviour - women don't want the human race to continue.

Fortunately Antiseptic has his pals, most recently, the outraged Styx, to put yours truly, that pesky femme, in her place. Seems that Styx has never heard a women present her honest opinion before and such revelation has been a massive shock.

If only I could learn to shut the fcuk-up and not be outraged when single mothers are continually targeted as the bane of all human enterprise. I should not point out that children are hurt by the parental tug-of-war by an adversarial court system which fails in its duty of care to children. Nor should I opine that continual denigration of either sex for real or perceived failings helps no-one, least of all our children.

Nor should I hint that Antiseptic never, ever presents any women in a positive light - except for those in his 'real' life apparently.

I am a bad, bad girl to have the temerity to present my point of view AND question that of a man's.

Guess I'll never learn my place.

Therefore, I can only conclude, Anti & pals, get over it, not everyone sees the world the way you do, some of us realise that there is good and bad in everyone, that both sexes have their human flaws and strengths.

Cheers m'dears

Severin

"I am a bad, bad girl to have the temerity to present my point of view AND question that of a man's."

It must be handy to have a general purpose comeback like that. You don't need to generate a counter-argument, instead you just attempt to put men in a position where we appear sexist for disagreeing with any woman. This tactic will do nothing to resolve issues.

"some of us realise that there is good and bad in everyone, that both sexes have their human flaws and strengths." Why then do we tend to position men as villans and women as victims. Why are allegations of child abuse overwhelmingly used to disadvantage men? Too hard? Just come up with something like "I am a bad, bad girl to have the temerity to present my point of view AND question that of a man's."