Thanks for the link Foxy,

It debunks the fear and smear campaign of some who make erroneous claims about third chambers of parliament etc. There are some on the conservative side of politics who oppose any "voice" and are looking for excuses to bring the whole process undone.

The race-based Voice is anathema to any liberal democratic society. People have been fooled by Albanese, with his whiny, nasal Ocker accent and hard-luck 'humble' upbringing stories, into thinking that he is fair dinkum. He is not.

Albanese is as dictatorial and totalitarian as they come. Aboriginal welfare is not imporDanD (his way of pronouncing important) to him; revenge is his thing, and we are all going to suffer for not being brought up in public housing bya single parent. Divide us. Lower our standard of living. We haven't seen anything yet.

Good Morning Paul,

Some people don't like facing the truth of this
country's colonial past and that has been part
of the problem. These people don't want to be
re-educated about the long history of exploitation
and cruelty. These people look back on the British
Empire with a sense of pride.

After all we were taught at school that the British
Empire was marvellous, giving India trains and
cricket and saving the savage Africans from the
eternal fires of damnation and all that. It was
simply wrong. These people have always thought of
England as the best country in the world. Well, it
isn't. It was cruel and greedy and unjust.,
much like the rest of the world, and the aftermath
of the British Empire in this country has given rise
to a hateful legacy of racism.

It's the injustice of things that infuriates me.
Some of the people posting here lack the power
of analysis. I'm not sure that they can be
influenced and encouraged to think critically
about their country and its relation to the world.

Still we need to do what we can to right things.
And the current government is trying to do just
that. It needs our support and hopefully it will
also get it from the Coalition as well. Julian
Leeser - the Coalition spokesman for Indigenous
Australians is a good man. He does offer qualified
support for an Indigenous Voice to the parliament
olan as laid out by the Prime Minister.

One vote for all Australians, equality in the electorate, one citizen entitled to the same representation in Parliament as another.
All attainable but not by giving one section of electors a special ‘in’ over the others.

Those who advocate such , when the division is based on race are racists pure and simple.

Albo has previously said that 'we' (ie the left) learned their lesson with the republican debate and won't make the same mistake again. And what was that mistake? Well they told the plebs exactly how the republic would work and the plebs decided they didn't like it. Specifically they said that the republic would have an appointed president whereas the deplorables wanted an elected president. So the lesson the left learned was to hide unpleasant details from the deplorables.

Consequently Albo has said, having learned that lesson, that some details are better not discussed. Clearly they suspect that these hidden details would be unacceptable to the mob, hence the need to avoid discussing them. What's being hidden? We can only guess, but it won't be good.

OTOH, Langton says that all the details have been released - perhaps she should tell Albo that. What she really means is that all the details the mob deserve or are going to get have been released. The rest will be 'decided' (its actually already been decided) after the vote. So vote the way we tell you to and we'll tell you what you voted for later. They think this is how democracy works!

OTOH, Burney advised that all the information about how the Voice will work will be released before the referendum. So clearly she thinks all the details HAVEN'T been released. It takes all the best efforts of doublethink for the usual suspects to think that all the details HAVE been released AND that the details WILL be released later. But they are used to believing two opposite things at once - anything to avoid being called racists.

Foxy et al have told us we just need to read all the reports to find out how the whole thing will work and they pretend to have done so. But when asked the simplest question (Will it be elected?) they run a mile.

The left is trying to push this through by hiding the truth about its workings. It'll be interesting to see if they can.

This, apparently,is how they think democracy works.

Hi Issy,

Why are you saying; "One vote for all Australians, equality in the electorate, one citizen entitled to the same representation in Parliament as another." There is no suggestion that the "Voice" will be a star chamber of Aboriginals enacting legislation or vetoing parliamentary bills, just not true.

There are people now in parliament representing the interests of big business, these people are toddies who are financed and directed by sectional interests. The Shooters and Hooters Party in NSW is such an organisation representing the gun lobby. Do you object to them? NO!

Hi Foxy,

This is a progressive move that is overdue, and hopefully supported by the majority of the parliament, and the majority of fair minded Australians, resulting in its implementation after a successful referendum.

The detractors might be a majority on the Forum, but in the broader community they are diddly-squat in number.

Ken Wyatt sent Albo a message of encouragement on the subject, and Andrew Bragg from the Liberal Party is strongly in favour of the "Voice" as being enshrined in the Constitution.