Dear Ttbn,

I was as upset about George Pell being jailed as now about Julian.

Just as I don't like to be jailed myself, I don't wish it on anybody else.

And yes, I am very aware that nothing we say here can make a difference: Australia is weak and needs America to save it from China, there is no other way, hence it is a fact that we must continue to grovel to America even when they are in the wrong. Just let it be known without delusion that Australia is unable to protect its citizens, including when faced with injustice.

Could it simply be just a case of paying the price for indoctrinated ideology ?

Dear Yuyutsu,

My question was "Would I have broken US laws for my action even though I was not a US citizen nor in US jurisdiction?". I think the claim that Jules is innocent because he wasn't a US citizen nor in US jurisdiction quite absurd.

If Jules goes to the US, he will face a trial in an impartial court and have good legal representation. That is more than the victims of his actions got.

Yuyutsu

You have most likely done nothing to be jailed for. I wouldn't want to be in jail either; and that's why I stick to the law.

Jail is punishment for bad people. There is no case for bad people to go unpunished when most people are not bad.

In Australia, there are not enough people locked up by weak, or corrupt and cowardly judges and magistrates. In the last couple of days in SA, we have had a pervert caught with child porn given 8 months home 'detention' because he is "not suited to jail", according to the rotten judge, who would be sacked if it were not for our equally rotten prosecutors who do not appeal, and the even more rotten politicians who are supposed to be serving us.

Fester,

You would not have broken US law because you were not subject to its jurisdiction.
As for Assange getting a fair trial, both the English and American Courts have ,in the past and no doubt in the future, have/will hand down politically motivated decisions.
Two famous cases from the past are the execution of William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) and the jailing of the doctor, Samuel Mudd who attended John Wilkes Booth after Lincoln’s murder
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Joyce was innocent and Mudd was eventually pardoned.

Hi Foxy,
The UK could've just as easily extradited him to Australia years ago, and let us deal with the US ourselves going forward.

In which case we could've said that we'll allow the US and their goon squad to come here and hold their trail, with a judiciary combined from both countries, in order that our citizen gets a fair trial and that his right to a fair one are upheld.

If found guilty, then we'll imprison him here as per the courts decision ourselves.

Given that the US was spying on him in a supposed neutral embassy and planned to assassinate him, it's hard for anyone to think he's going to get a fair day in court.

I'm happy for him to face court for that which he's accused of, so long as he gets a fair trial, but I don't think that will be the case in the US.

The Assange situation deserves special attention in my opinion, in the interests of fairness, something I don't think the US would favor.