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The Forum > General Discussion > Britain Orders the Extradition of Julian Assange.

Britain Orders the Extradition of Julian Assange.

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«How does anyone break US law when they are not US citizens and are not in US jurisdiction at the time of the alleged offence?»

Not only do I agree with Is Mise's concise statement, but I stated the same all along.

But alas, we are slaves - tragically, no one on this planet dares to simultaneously defy both America and China (possibly save Israel which has its own nukes), both oppressors in their own ways, but China being even worse, the outcome is inevitable: Julian will be cruelly tortured paying the price of our helplessness and any further discussion is futile.

The right thing was to snatch Julian many years ago, when he was released on bail in an estate near the beach. An Australian navy ship or submarine should have landed commandos at night to take him onboard (then of course deny that we had anything to do with it), but only Israel does such operations, we here live as chickens and will die as chickens.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 18 June 2022 9:03:12 PM
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«How does anyone break US law when they are not US citizens and are not in US jurisdiction at the time of the alleged offence?»

Again, the British courts rejected this argument. Could I ask if I would be breaking US law for the following: I send a bomb in the post to the United States which explodes in a postal facility, killing and injuring employees as well as damaging the facility. Am I in the clear because I am neither a US citizen nor in US jurisdiction? According to some accounts the harm that Jules did was far greater than any bomb I could have sent.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 June 2022 9:21:15 PM
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Fester,
You’d be charged under Australian law.
What Assange may or may not have caused to happen, he couldn’t have done so if the US was not breaking the law itself; Assange in my opinion did the wrong thing and for reward, but that dosen’t change the fact that the US has no jurisdiction over him. He is an Australian and our Government should be protecting him.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 18 June 2022 9:33:09 PM
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Is mise

Indeed I would be charged under Australian law, but would I have broken US laws? You don't have to answer the question like politician. It is a simple question.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 June 2022 9:48:55 PM
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Dear Fester,

Clearly if someone posted a bomb from Australia, then either it would already be against Australian law, or the Americans would tell Australia: "Fix this to our satisfaction or no more mail from Australia is accepted".

Another country might be happy about its citizens sending bombs to America, then it would become an international issue between that country and America, perhaps even a war, but no individual should be charged for what was perfectly legal at the time in their country.

Most Australian women break the Saudi modesty laws daily in the way they dress, but is anyone suggesting that they should therefore be extradited to Saudi Arabia?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 18 June 2022 10:25:52 PM
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Get over Assange. The Australian Government is not going to interfere in the situation, as Foreign Minister Wong made clear tonight.

DEFAT has made it clear that Australia is not a party to Assange’s case, nor can the Australian government intervene in the legal matters of another country.

Some people just have to side with anti-heros and scumbags, but nobody is listening. All the wailing about this unpleasant character, especially by those who didn't bat an eyelid when George Pell was wrongly jailed for 404 days is disgusting, to say the least.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 18 June 2022 11:05:48 PM
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