So, Im sort of at a loss finding an answer to my question - If you receive an infringement notice in the mail, can police later take it to court as well?
Do they need to issue you a notice to appear?

Get a lawyer, Jack.

Hi Jack,

I don't know what stage your infringement notice is
at. From what I understand a person who's given an
infringement notice can choose to pay the amount
specified in the notice and it ends there.

If you've chosen to contest the notice and be heard in court
you may wish to ask for a review instead. However if you get
a court summons for not paying your fine - you've got to
turn up at the hearing unless you pay the fine in full
before you're due in court. Otherwise you could be arrested
and put in prison if you don't.

Hi Jack,

If you can Google - "Fines Victoria," the site will
explain things further. Also you can contact Vic.
Roads - if your infringement is traffic related.

I received the fine in the mail late last year. I am going to court for another traffic offence. The last time i went to court it wasnt on my bench charge sheet. I had to seek an adjournment for the court mention which was after this one. The infringement notice has since been added to my bench charge sheet.

Jack

You seem to have a lot of trouble with the law. You have been here, on OLO, before looking for advice from people with no qualifications to answer you. Pay the bloody fine, and start obeying the law like most other people. You will get no sympathy or free advice here.

You have received an infringement notice by mail.
If you do not pay it you will then receive a court attendance notice.
When you appear in court the police will defer the matter until a later date. and this will continue until you do not show up then they send you another letter demanding payment of the original fine plus court costs. and if this is not paid they send you a letter saying that your license has been cancelled until you pay the amount.
This I have learnt from experience (not me) just pay the fine.
You will also find a solicitor will experience the same problem, then you have to pay his fee as well.

Thankyou for the info. How is an in the mail infringement different to any other?

Jack,
You're probably confusing Justice with Law !

"How is an in the mail infringement different to any other?"

Ones stuck in your letterbox, the other is stuck through you car window. That just cost you 500 bucks Jack for the "professional" advice.

If you contest the fine in court, they bring the speed camera in and put it in the witness box. Where I get to cross-examine it on your behalf. That just cost you another 500 bucks.

If you are found guilty, and that's most likely having me for your lawyer. I will plead "insanity" on your behalf, whereby they will lock you up in an institution for the rest of your life. that will cost you another 500 buck.

All in all, a good days work for me, and a profitable one as well.

Dear Ttbn,

«You seem to have a lot of trouble with the law.»

Don't we all?

How we handle that trouble can be different from one person to the next, but whether we ignore the laws at our personal peril (like Jack) or comply like chicken then spit at ourselves with contempt (some sadly also at their loved ones) for being such cowards, the trouble is there just the same.

I'm glad Jack has came on here seeking free advice. So happens I am just the lawyer Jack needs. Just last week I was in traffic court cross examining a witness.

Me; State your full name.
Wit; Speed Alphonso Camera
Me; Occupation!
Wit; Taking photos.
Me; Where were you on the night of March 6th.
Wit; I was in Dingo Street
Me; Doing what?
Wit; Taking photos of speeding motorists.
Me[ Did you observe my client on the night in question.
Wit; Yes
Me; What was he doing?
Wit; Speeding.
Me; What did you do?
Wit; Took his photograph.

ME; Well your Honour, I think that establishes my clients guilt, and he throws himself on the mercy of the court. I would just like to say, could you please consider life imprisonment, rather than the usual execution, my client has an aversion to the noose. Maybe not, its all good with me.

No, Yuyutsu. We do not all have trouble with the law. I certainly do not. You, on the other hand, might, given your concern about having to wear a helmet when riding a bike. Some time ago, but I remember the fuss you made about it.

Different 'from', Jack; not different 'to'. You can get advice on grammar here, but not on the law. Just pay up and shut up, unless you want to end up in jail.

Jack

Get onto A Current Affair, which has glorified a 17 year old idiot for standing on the side of the road warning motorists about speed cameras ahead. They will make you into a hero.

Dear Ttbn,

«No, Yuyutsu. We do not all have trouble with the law. I certainly do not.»

Alright, so if you accept it to be legitimate for others to impose their laws on you, then you are not a chicken (like me) or a wolf (like Jack) - then you are a sheep!

How would you feel about the law, for example, if the Greens came to power (democratically of course) and legislated that you may not gender-discriminate who you sleep with; that you may not hold or use cash; that you must donate 95% of your wealth for the development of "clean" energy (and the rest once you die); and that you must install a robot in your home who will follow you 24/7 to make sure that you always use correct "earth-friendly" practices?

Yuyutsu,

Please try to be realistic.

Dear Ttbn,

«Please try to be realistic.»

I agree that this specific example/scenario is quite unlikely.

But that means that you accede in principle to the tyranny of the law only because you believe that such terrible things can only happen to others, not to you.

Depending on the state some of the laws can be pretty screwed up. It seems that they have become fairly politicized. Not sure about the case of Jackofharrassment. There seems to be some question of their legitimacy for example those to do with Family Law- garnishing of funds by government departments rather than by the court. The police as another example seem to engage in immoral tactics in order to get numbers. To be fair the police seem to be in an impossible situation as they seem to be trapped between mad politics and the laws of nature- so they take the cynical path. The police say that you shouldn't be afraid if you are telling the truth- this is a lie- never talk to the police!- they are not reasonable people- neither are judges- they don't care about you, justice, fairness- the wrong word can make you guilty. But legal representation is expensive- you can't even trust your own lawyer. It's a very dangerous world- perhaps it's not safe to go outside- the law isn't making it any safer.