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Do you need to come out

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Is Mise,

Mother nature does not agree with you.

Josephus,

Sometimes it takes a while to come out for whatever
reason. But this young man might not want anyone else
to go through what he had to and has decided to come out
for that reason.

mhaze,

Nobody is asking you to accept anything. The facts are
merely being presented from a different view point to the
"norm." We've all been discriminated against in one form
or another as to what was seen as "acceptable" at the time.
Be it single mothers, migrants, Indigenous people, and now
gays. I just find it sad that some of us are looking for
reasons as to why the young man should not have done it. If
it is so "yawn" why is that do you think?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 30 October 2021 4:03:58 PM
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cont'd ...

We are all individuals with our own viewpoints and
opinions depending on the way we were raised.
There are bad people and there are good people on
all sides. I remember a young over weight little
boy who lived across the street from us and whose
father expected a certain type of behaviour from
his son. He'd lock the son in a shed over night to
"teach him a lesson." We could hear the boy's screams
well into the night. The kid ended up leaving home
when he got older and as far as I know he never came
back. That father's behaviour was anything but what
I would consider "normal."

That goes for heterosexual relationships where the husband
(or partner) abuses his wife and children instead of
protecting them in a loving and caring relationship.

Of course there are also gay people who are "over the top."
I don't find it in good taste to have gay men dress up as
"nuns" and make fun of religion in Sydney's Gay Parade.
If they don't want to be made fun of they should not make
fun of others.

We should treat each other with kindness and respect. The world
would be a better place.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 30 October 2021 4:47:43 PM
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Foxy,

I'm not saying he shouldn't have done it. I'm just saying that if I fail to gush and swoon over his supposed bravery, that doesn't saying anything about my supposed homophobia.

The trouble with the woke-ists is that they don't permit anyone to be neutral. "You're either with us or a Guinness".

Well if you think telling the world you prefer anuses to vaginas is a big deal that's fine. But, these days, its no more consequential than me telling the world I prefer to do it leftward.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 30 October 2021 4:58:42 PM
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mhaze,

That's not what I am saying. A person's sexual preferences
whatever they may be - should not be condemned or questioned
if they choose to "come out." Many people refer to the
heterosexual experience as the only "normal" way to be or
live. They don't want to know anything else.

When that happens it renders any experience that does not fit
that mould as "other." This "othering can take the form
of social and economic exclusion. Violence, bullying, and often
state sanctioned imprisonment and even death.

It enforces the gender binary and its accompanying gender
stereotypes.

Anyway, I've had my say on the subject. I mean no disrespect
to anyone. We all have our views - whatever they may be.
And we don't necessarily have to agree.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 30 October 2021 5:09:52 PM
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Foxy,
Normal is that which is the usual way of doing things, if the majority of human kind become homosexual then homosexuality will be what is normal for humankind.
Suggest that you look up the meaning of normal.

Most human beings are not hunters therefore were I to say that hunting is normal then I’d be in error.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 30 October 2021 6:26:09 PM
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Honestly, I don't think people should have to say anything about themselves. Their natural aura will speak for itself. I do think a message is being put into some people's minds they need to say something or...?

For those who know themselves and not affected by any negative, emotional set of issues will simply be themselves and feel no need to tell anybody anything about themselves and certainly not anything overly personal, like what has occurred in this case.

Then there is the issue of words. I don't believe words can truly describe who you are as a person, or do you any credit. They have limits and meanings and by coming out and telling other people things about yourself, you can be providing people with words with limited value and that are dry, when there is so much more to yourself. One must also consider the media and they will only print or put out so many words to fit into their publication, radio or television program.

I do feel though some people feel the need to come out because of those with bigoted viewpoints, but the point should be made clear giving those with close minded views another platform for further villification will do nothing to end such behaviour - some of which is noticable on this page.
Posted by NathanJ, Saturday, 30 October 2021 7:06:14 PM
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