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The Forum > General Discussion > The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

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Hi Issy,

Be fair on Foxy about your swastika nonsense, you know full well the vast majority of Westerners view the swastika as an evil Nazi symbol, and nothing else. Its my view that the swastika and other like symbols should not be banned. Banning is counterproductive, it gives these extremists a rallying point which can work against what was intended. As for your kindred sprits burning Christian crosses in the front yards of black people down in Alabama whilst wearing flour sacks and bedsheets, that's intimidation, and should not be tolerated. But I have no objection to your folk burning crosses whilst wearing flour sacks and bedsheets in the front yard of SSAA HQ, in fact I'll supply the matches.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 23 August 2021 6:30:37 AM
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Armchair Critic,

Each of us have our stories to tell. Each of
us have our own life experiences. However,
very few people resort to using hatred, fear,
and violence against others as these neo-Nazis
in Australia are attempting to do. Most people get
on and work hard and carve lives out for themselves
and their families as best they can.

My daughter-in-law was not even born during the time
of Hitler. Currently she's in her final year studying
nursing. We don't discuss politics. However Nazi
symbols are banned in Germany and most Germans today
consider Hitler as an evil.

You say that I don't know what equality means? You
have no idea of my life experiences to be able to make
any assumptions on that or any subject about me. I have
lived and worked on several continents including ten
years in the United States. I've seen the racial
discrimination that occurred against black people regularly
in that country. I have also experienced discrimination
in this country as well. As has my family. So I can
speak from experience. However my mindset has always
remained positive and I have very high hopes for the
future of this country which I regard as my home.

Anyway, I can see that we're poles apart in our thinking.
I see no point in upsetting you any further. Therefore it's
best we discontinue this conversation. I would prefer
not to have to respond to you.

Is Mise,

If you want more detail regarding the swastikas - try
going to libraries and asking for help once the lockdowns
end. I thought the link I cited gave enough examples
and differences.

As for your concern about what authorities in this country
will do? To satisfy yourself contact the Attorney General's
Department in Canberra expressing your concerns.

The Attorney General is the minister responsible for
legal affairs national and public security and acts as
a legal adviser to the Cabinet.

The Address is:

Attorney-General's Department
3-5 National Circuit
Barton ACT 2600

Tel: (02) 6141-6666.

Michaelia Cash is the newly appointed Attorney General
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 August 2021 9:51:54 AM
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Dear Paul,

Thanks for your comments.

Regarding Eric Abetz? His gread-uncle died when
Abetz was just a baby. We have no way of knowing
what the family thought of the man, or what influence
the man might have had on Abetz and his politics.
However, I would hesitate to judge anybody on the actions
of their relatives.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 August 2021 9:55:09 AM
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Foxy,
So you can’t tell the difference; you’re not on your own, neither can anyone else.

Paul,
You’ve been on the road to Damascus again, good to see your conversion.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 23 August 2021 2:37:32 PM
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Is Mise,

The differences have already been explained.
There are various meanings in many cultures
as well as many variations
in design and many decorative additions.

Basically Hitler's is a "hooked cross" (black) and is
right facing with short legs. Hitler put it on a white
circle against a red background and used it as the
the Nazi flag. The ancient symbols are left-facing
with longer legs and are more decorative depending on the
culture.

If you want more information on the subject I told you where
to get it. And the following book is worth getting hold
of:

"The Buddhist Swastika and Hitler's Cross: Rescuing a
Symbol of Peace from the Forces of Hate," by T.K. Nakagaki

The book explains how and why these symbols get confused.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 August 2021 3:19:50 PM
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Foxy,
Suggest that you read some of your links, the way the arms of the swastika face signifies different things in different cultures and is not solely an indication of a Nazi connection, this is a trap into which many of the uninformed have fallen.
The background against which the Nazis placed it is not part of the swastika lt merely is an indication of one user’s position.
Neither you nor any one else can tell the difference between the Nazi swastika and that of many other users.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 23 August 2021 5:54:05 PM
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