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The Forum > General Discussion > The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

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Is Mise,

I stated in my previous post that there are various meanings
in many cultures as well as many variations in design and of
course they don't have a Nazi connection. Hitler took it
for the Nazi Party which explains why these symbols get
confused as the author T.K. Nakagaki explains in his book
"The Buddhist Swastika and Hitler's Cross: Rescuing a Symbol
of Peace from the Forces of Hate."

Encyclopedia Britannica also explains:

http://britannica.com/topic/swastika

OK. Good Talk.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 August 2021 6:49:54 PM
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The cover shot on ‘60 Minutes” video of last weeks show shewed a prominent Celtic Cross, a Christian symbol being worn by a Nazi or a fellow traveller.

Let’s ban it.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 23 August 2021 6:49:57 PM
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Is Mise,

It is the short "sun cross" version of the Celtic Cross
surrounded by a circle that is more commonly used by
white supremacists. This shows that care must be taken
always to judge things in context.

As far as I know there simply are no laws restricting the
flaunting of odious symbols such as the Nazi emblems or
pictures of Hitler in this country so your suggestion of
banning I doubt will hold much weight. But you never
know what the future holds. You would have seen last
night - authorities are wanting to have these neo-Nazis
declared as a terrorist organisation - so you never know.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 August 2021 7:07:28 PM
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What we do observe of the far/alt right or neo-Nazis is fairly minor nor locally organic, but imported from the US.

In fact by focusing upon these groups we miss an important point, i.e. they share much with (or deflect from) society, media and politics where the many of the same opinions have been seeded, shaped and formed, especially the right, including literature and old tropes based round eugenics.

Post white Australia policy the trick has been to highlight and mainstream the same but using contemporary or proxy issues and new language for 'dog whistling'; endeavouring to peel off old Labor voters or simply create anxiety.

Accordingly this includes immigration, refugees, ('nebulous') NOM net overseas migration, population growth,'sustainable population' etc. blaming them for and especially environmental degradation to foil constraints on fossil fuels (big oil, auto oligarchs and the 'top people' have historically been very keen on eugenics and 'freedom & liberty' for themselves).

In fact what has become mainstreamed is the old anti-semitic eugenics trope that became Islamophobic, for more acceptance (especially as the former is socially unacceptable) i.e. 'great replacement theory'; before the Christchurch shooter one had heard of via two WASPs, one a British immigrant Green's voter and the other a middle class Lib voter.... (sure many in Labor feel the same).
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 23 August 2021 8:40:22 PM
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Hi Foxy and Issy,

Issy, it was actually the road to Moonee Ponds and a stop off at the drive thru Macca's when I had my revelation! And Ronald's voice from above came forth from the loudspeaker, he spoke to me in tongues; "Any fries with that order"....I interoperated that to mean I was now the chosen one to sally forth with the message of good tidings to lowly sinners such as yourself, I quote to you a deep and meaningful passage from the 'Book of Ron'; "Two all beef patties on a sesame seed bun" Hark! take salvation from that revelation and make what you will of it, it shall bring you great joy and comfort in the afterlife!" Praise be the Ronald.

I hope I have been of help to you Issy with the above message of comfort. It makes about as much sense as your Swastika nonsense. Stop it you'll go blind!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 23 August 2021 10:13:32 PM
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Foxy,
You’re wrong about pictures of Hitler, his picture used to be used as a target at gun clubs but Australian Parliaments made shooting at him illegal, likewise the rest of the top Nazis.
The 38 Minutes program is simply a recruiting add for the white supremicists.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 23 August 2021 10:15:35 PM
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