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Fighting for freedom or 'selfish boofheads'
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Posted by mhaze, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:06:54 PM
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I've had to think this out and no these protestors are not selfish, boofheads maybe, but not selfish.
I mean they could die from COVID-19 for going against health advice during a COVID-19 epidemic and for not wearing masks. They are also facing going to court (as per the NSW Government). "Two men were charged with committing an act of cruelty upon an animal and failing to comply with public health orders, while one was also charged with assaulting a police officer. Fifty-seven people have already been charged and 90 infringement notices issued while a police strike force has been established to hunt down those involved by analysing footage from social media, CCTV and police-worn body cameras." http://indaily.com.au/news/2021/07/25/selfish-boofheads-anger-over-protests-as-nsw-records-another-141-cases-two-deaths/ I don't know how that will turn out and honestly I don't know if it's worth bothering with, with so many dying in NSW due to COVID-19. If anything I could argue the boofheads are the NSW Government and they are just looking for people to go after! Posted by NathanJ, Friday, 30 July 2021 6:24:44 PM
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Dear Nathan,
Yes, boofheads seems to be the case unless I fail to understand their motive (if indeed they have one). This marching straight into police's arms is the most idiotic way to conduct a revolution and COVID is the least issue to base one's revolution on and get people on your side. In fact, the COVID lockdown and restrictions are among the government's best policies and have popular support. They are not a problem in themselves - the root, long-term problem is the very existence of government. Wisdom says that when the enemy is stronger one should lie low, wait, plan and quietly gather support. Look how futile the public demonstrations in Hong-Kong were and into what deep trouble it got them without a single benefit! Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 31 July 2021 9:37:39 PM
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Pauliar,
Quarantine and aged care is constitutionally a federal responsibility. However, it can be delegated to the states if the states so wish. Morrison's error was in delegating it to the Fwit Andrews who not only refused federal help but then put union mates in charge of quarantine and deliberately shipped infected age care patients into the facilities. Secondly, there is enough AZ vaccine in the country to stop this problem in its tracks, but once again anti-vaxxers such as Pauliar want to delay the rollout when the worst that could happen would be a dozen fatalities from AZ compared to the 820 death from the more lethal labor stupidity. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 1 August 2021 6:27:45 AM
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shonkyminister,
Do you make it up as you go, or are you reading it off some misinformation script prepared by some right-wing nutter, or is that you? The vast majority of Covid-19 victims in Melbourne were living in private aged care (a federal responsibility) such as St Basil's, which was at the centre of the outbreak. They weren't "shipped in" to those facilities by Andrews as you are suggesting. As things got out of control and the bumbling Morrison sat of his hands and passed the buck, as he has done throughout the pandemic, Victoria had to seek federal permission to go into private age care facilities and do the best they could. Next, the vaccine roll-out and the shambolic efforts of the Mad Medico Morrison, did he train under the Dangerous Doctor Donald, sure looks like it. Even Liberal members are admitting what a disaster the Federal government has made of vaccination. You say; "the worst that could happen would be a dozen fatalities from AZ" Yes I agree, but that is 12 dead young Australians who would have otherwise lived if a proper vaccineene program had been in place, with Pfizer or some other safer vaccineene in use for people under 60. How many deaths, it looks like 12 minimum, you and Morrison are prepared to accept to save his scrawny political hide? Finnaly New South Wales today, not last year but today, with all they should have learned over the past 16 months. 14 needless deaths because the Liberals wanted to save the profits of their business cronies. Then there was The Hazzard and "Mr Limo Driver" a story of The Hazzards incomperdence in itself, he can put that down with his 'Ruby Princess' failure and 28 deaths. Six weeks into the pandemic and the Berejiklian mob have no control and no plan. Gladys appears on TV daily wringing her hands and crying "Pray to god that things get better." Shonky, I'm in no way an anti-vaxxer, I want it to be done, and done correctly. I'll leave the anti vaxx thing to you. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 1 August 2021 7:47:48 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Thank you for the comments. I don't think the protesters have achieved much at all. If anything they have just allowed a Government to further entrench their narrative into the minds of the public. One being fear. Another is that is you cannot survive without a Parliament and Government. I saw one woman on television question the protestors to if they were going to come out again and impact on lives due to the number of people contracting COVID-19 in NSW, but she wasn't questioning the NSW Government. The protestors have also allowed a Government to blame someone else. That being the protestors themselves. I could though argue that Governments in Australia are at fault, not getting vaccinations out fast enough and with a poor rollout etc. Posted by NathanJ, Sunday, 1 August 2021 5:09:26 PM
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Given that we've seen how utterly innumerate as regards statistics SR is, it's hardly surprising that he'd think that. But he's not so innumerate as to fail to see that his own numbers are a misuse of statistics.