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Fighting for freedom or 'selfish boofheads'

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CM,

You conveniently forget boarder security and quarantine are a federal responsibility, as is private aged care where most of the death in Vic occurred.

Nor do you have anything to say about the shambles in NSW, and the failure of conservative government to take adequate steps to control the outbreak. Remember "Mr Limo Driver", no PPE, no vaccination.

Here's a fact; Morrison due to his vaccination stuff up is willing to consign more young Australians to their deaths by AstraZeneca side effects than would have occurred if the government had been proactive in obtaining Pfizer. How many young Australians is Morrison willing to sacrifice in trying to save his scrawny political neck
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 29 July 2021 7:42:16 AM
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The UK says it's OK for Australians and New Zealanders who are fully vaccinated to go there; but our dipstick government won't allow us to leave or return
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:18:17 AM
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Paul, Aged Care is Federal but they pay Victoria to supervise it. Andrews accepts no blame just said most deaths were in private aged care but with no information. Still a fact that 90% of all deaths are sheeted home to Andrews stuff up with a dodgy security company that he cannot remember anything about.
The rest of what you say is certainly true and now the idiot Gladys is following the universal line of destroying small business to protect 80+ year olds dying in due course.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:23:24 PM
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Another 800 US university professors write that lockdowns, quarantines and travel bans undermine public trust, have large societal costs and disproportionately affect the most vulnerable segments in our community.

The European Journal of Clinical Investigations says that the net harms of lockdowns exceed the negatives of covid. Half the deaths reported in the UK are not ‘covid-caused’, but are related to the actual lockdowns - suicide, loss of medical checkups and monitoring. Lockdowns have caused enormous human cost.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 29 July 2021 1:33:13 PM
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Dear JF,

Yup, the current Covid test is pretty good but as with any diagnostic test the higher you set the sensitivity the more false positives you will get. Setting that sensitivity high given the ramifications of Covid escaping into the community is perfectly understandable. So what is your point?

Fauci has always put the health of the US citizenry above the whining snowflakes of the alt-right which is why he is so despised, even by Australians of that ilk who really don't have a stake in the game over there. Pitiful isn't it.

Dear mhaze,

Surprised you have the hide to show up on this topic given the death of a woman in her mid thirties from Covid but without any underlying health issues.

To borrow from your pathological misuse of statistics 10% of deaths from the recent outbreak are under 40.

What would you say to this woman's family if she had decided not to get a vaccine based on coming across your assurances on this site that she was perfectly safe?

Dear JBowyer,

You write: “Gladys is following the universal line of destroying small business to protect 80+ year olds dying in due course.”

What a fact denying idiotic thing to say. Besides the fact that many under 80s have succumbed to the disease it turns out that countries who have gone hard on their Covid response have managed to protect their economies far better than those that haven't. Our iron ore sector is a case in point.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 30 July 2021 8:50:20 AM
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SR firstly the 30 year old was 39 and died from blood clots in both legs according to her brother, how did that escape MSM? We know, they are lying scum!
You are wrong the bulk of death is to not just 80 year old but 90 even some 100+ in Victoria. Again MSM are in lock step to enrich their very rich owners at our expense. I cannot wait for the suggestion that "Build back better" uses all the Super funds you supporters have.
SR you love your Gulags and deport and shoot orders better and we all know why and it is not to help Australia.
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 30 July 2021 10:15:56 AM
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