Anti-lockdown protestors who protested in Sydney have been slammed for ‘putting lives at risk’ and labelled 'selfish boofheads' for doing so.

The people involved however have said the protests are about freedoms and their right to not be controlled by a State Government.

http://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-lockdown-protesters-in-sydney-slammed-for-putting-lives-at-risk-c-3494021

A 38 year old woman from New South Wales however has just died from COVID-19, so is it time to reconsider going out like these protesters have on the high moral grounds of freedom, when they are potentially spreading COVID-19 and ending lives?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-26/nsw-covid-victim-identified-as-adriana-midori-takara/100322722

Under normal situations it is our human right to protest Government policy, however it is not normal as others health is at risk. As much as Covid 19 was a leak from a lab developing biological warefare, it is our responsibility to avoid spreading it. Similarly if we were being gassed we would wear a mask to protect ourselves.

Dear Nathan,

People in a democracy should have the right to
protest, but not to the point of anarchy. The behaviour
as seen on television by many of these protestors
definitely showed them to be "selfish boofheads!"
Many when questioned by reporters as to why they were
there couldn't give a coherent answer. Makes you wonder.
WTF.

I don't recall the bed-wetting,dictatorial Australian politicians calling BLM and other Marxist rioters "boofheads" when they were rioting, looting and burning - not just protesting - at the height of the pandemic. The Left - which includes ALL Australian politicians now, are the real boofheads, and much more dangerous than people trying to maintain the democratic freedoms being gradually taken from us.

I was at the BLM and also one of the "Children's" demonstrations against what is it now AGW, Climate change or courtesy of that Lenore Guardian editor global heating.
Now neither of these despite being last year when Danny dim sim was presiding over 90% of all Australian Covid deaths did these arguments come up.
as for the MSM look at this for the Melbourne demo but this time the whole truth not the big media lies https://www.rebelnews.com/this_is_what_really_happened_at_the_rally_for_freedom_in_melbourne?e=2eb7fd00caeae3f201cd9c42ac50d265&utm_source=therebel&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ay_melbourneprotest_7_26_21&n=7

Protest against this virus by staying at home and
getting out of lockdown instead of screaming at the
top of your lungs (without masks) and potentially
spreading droplets all over the place. Half-wits,
verbally aggressive, throwing plastic bottles at police,
finally getting arrested. This is not the sort of
behaviour that should be tolerated.

One of my issues with calling these protestors "selfish boofheads" is that is only going to stir these people up even further and they are going to want to go out and protest all over again. It will be a here we go again moment.

Foxy and Nathan, you are completely right! We should all surrender now and obey the current government.
The MSM never show them doing anything wrong. However overseas we see Boris Johnson and that little maggot Macron shaking hands, backslapping and hobnobbing with others whilst in front of the cameras it was all distance and elbow bumps.
You deserve all you get from these fascist bullies but then cowards always do. Please do not expect me to kow tow to that little Chinese Hunchback Bully!
Wait till the Chinese buy all the Victorian tourist companies at half price and then put their own people to work in them. Danny dim sim will probably get lots of lucrative directorships to go with his magnificent pension.
Now back under the bed children, thumbs in mouth and cry yourselves to sleep!

Well,
If the citizens right to protest is suspended due to a pandemic;
Then in fairness;
A governments ability to pass new laws that citizens cant oppose should also be suspended.

When citizens full rights to protest are no longer suspended;
Then the government can reassume it's law passing functions.

We should remember Polio and Small Pox were not defeated by herd immunity, it took vaccines. This Covid 19 was developed as a biological weapon of war, so it is equivalent to gas as a weapon of war. Stay away from where and how it is spread.

Armchair Critic,

<<If the citizens right to protest is suspended due to a pandemic, then in fairness, a governments ability to pass new laws that citizens cant oppose should also be suspended.>>

This has happened during a lockdown. Parliament cannot sit. It has meant that there is less scrutiny over what a Government, including ministers are doing. There are people making decisions behind the scenes which is of serious concern and what I argue are "captains calls". How this came into play, I don't know.

Proud Boy Jose'

There is no evidence that the Chinese developed Covid-19 as a "biological weapon of war", no more than if one believes it was an American plant which attempted to destroy the Chinese economy, but went horribly wrong, Why else would Trump dismiss it as a mild flu, it will be gone by Easter (2020). Too many people are jealous of China's success since 1949.

Oh! the poor old Sovereign Citizen brigade, down there spreading Covid and waving the Yankee flag at the same time. Supported by the likes of Fat George Christensen and Allan Jones. Grubs the pair of them.

BTW JB, most of the deaths in Victoria were in private aged care, a Federal government responsibility, spread from hotel quanentean another Federal government responsibility. Did those facts escape you?

Great work by both Dictator Dan and Marshmallow Marshall in getting their states out of lockdown quickly after NSW had sent them complementary doses of Covid. The same can't be said for that bumbling bimbo and her sidekick The Hazzard in NSW. Tar and feathering is no longer legal, well not in NSW.

Speaking of names given to people, Christian is not one used in tonight’s Census: Islam is on the list as are Hinduism and Buddism. Catholic, Anglican, Uniting Church, Presbyterian, Greek Orthordox, and Baptist have been listed, but they are denominations of Christianity, NOT religions. So, if you are not a church-goer, you have to write Christian in ‘Other’. The examples of ‘other’ suggested are Lutheran and Salvation Army (both Christian denominations), Judaism, Taoism, and atheism, the latter not being a religion at all.

Paul

<<There is no evidence that the Chinese developed Covid-19 as a "biological weapon of war">>

There doesn't have to be. The facts are it is killing people and ending lives. I think all people need to tone down the protests a bit, (whatever they are about) and find other ways to get their message across. An online petition maybe at the moment, phone calls, emails? Comments on this page and get new people to sign up?

We have people fighting for freedom 'now' despite the risks of COVID-19 and yet we had people protesting against speakers like Milo Yiannopoulos years ago when COVID-19 was not an issue. Where were the freedom protests then?

The double standards for me are a bit of a turn off.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/violent-clash-in-melbourne-milo-yiannopoulos/1039b5b9-cf6a-414e-ba95-e21cc693e58e

Ttbn,
Come now Catholicism is Christianity the other Christian religions are but breakaways from Catholicism, which merely means Universal.

Boofheads perhaps, but selfish?

A selfish person cares only to maximise their personal gain, certainly not to lose.

Such a person would either stay at home to avoid trouble or go out and socialise covertly, but these protesters went out overtly knowing well that there is nothing they could possibly gain, including freedom, along an almost certainty that they will be fined if not even arrested.

Dear NathanJ,

It was rather confronting wasn't it and selfish buffoons is a pretty apt description.

People have rightly made comparisons to the BLM protests and fair enough to a degree. Both have been part of worldwide coordinated campaigns and both required participants to break Covid rules in some states.

However there was a glaring difference.

This is the mask compliance at the Melbourne BLM protest.

http://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/08cdfc4ba8675ab7d5ae08490e6b8e94?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1688&cropW=3000&xPos=0&yPos=0&width=862&height=485

And this is one of the Anti-lockdown crowd in the same city over the weekend.

http://imageresizer.static9.net.au/vuVl2PhuPZ_YngD0KiW5U5QsELA=/500x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Ffd919400-9daa-44c8-b19e-0fe1d265eb96

Hardly a mask in sight. If they had a brain between them then they should have thought about masking up to make identification harder, but it seems that didn't occur to the bulk of the clowns.

SR the whole point of the march was to protest about this whole ship show that is the response to Covid, especially masks.
Perhaps you can assist me. Is the current Covid test any good? I read 50% failure rate? There is a much quicker test invented in Aus and a lot cheaper but not preferred by Brettie Sutton so he goes with the half wrong one at three times the price?
Masks, well, this is an absolute can of worms! Fauci the lying little despot said yes, no and then yes and no, I think he settled on No? Amazing that there are still loads of cases, alledgedly, but the deaths are plumeting.
Andrews is still the No 1 Covid killer in Australia despite all the vitriol he hurls at Gladys and despite all his gold standard boasting.
Off you go SR with your brand of smarty pants and bile give me the info!

I wouldn't go so far as to say they're freedom fighters but they were perhaps the last gasps of democratic freedoms in this country. Equally they are people who looked at the data and past the government spin and decided that the government imposed house arrest wasn't good fo them, their family and their community.

Its a very simple equation here. If you're concerned about the virus, go and get vaccinated and leave everyone else alone to make their decision. If you don't think that vaccination equals protection then go and protest the government attempts to force you to get vaccinated. If you agree with the 'experts' that vaccination equals protection, then act like you're protected - no mask, no distancing, no house arrest.

When is terrorist a freedom fighter? When he's on your side.

Paul,
You swung the hammer with dexterous accuracy there!
The nail was hit squarely on the head.

When he's on your side.
Paul1405,
No, on yours !

I do feel for the families who have lost loved ones due to COVID-19 and I am still left with a gap to why suddenly why freedom is an issue, when it was an issue years ago, in fact in Australia for a long time.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2019/jul/19/australians-faith-in-politics-has-collapsed-how-can-we-reimagine-democracy

So with the article 'Australians’ faith in politics has collapsed – how can we reimagine democracy?' how do Australians and others in other places address this issue?

As one put it: "We have never enjoyed real democracy (and I would argue freedom) in Australia, rather a pale imitation, an indirect democratic variation where people are only given a chance to have a say every election. It's not that democracy has broken, rather that we have never had it in the first place."

Freedom must fit somewhere in there and it's time to start talking about freedom as people come towards a Federal election next year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMCZBjvmD4

This is interesting...
It appears that the Victorian Government has been setting up more quarantine hotels.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/victorian-government-adds-new-hotel-to-quarantine-program/news-story/71610c24dabbe3428f6320f395c17e02

Hope they manage it better than they have been so they don't need to lock down Victoria again- Victoria people are sick of the Daniel Andrews government.

If it wasn't for the mismanagement of the Australian border by the government especially Daniel Andrew's Communist Government and Bureaucracy the people wouldn't need to wear masks and isolate. The Australian people would be able to get back to productive work

CM,

You conveniently forget boarder security and quarantine are a federal responsibility, as is private aged care where most of the death in Vic occurred.

Nor do you have anything to say about the shambles in NSW, and the failure of conservative government to take adequate steps to control the outbreak. Remember "Mr Limo Driver", no PPE, no vaccination.

Here's a fact; Morrison due to his vaccination stuff up is willing to consign more young Australians to their deaths by AstraZeneca side effects than would have occurred if the government had been proactive in obtaining Pfizer. How many young Australians is Morrison willing to sacrifice in trying to save his scrawny political neck

The UK says it's OK for Australians and New Zealanders who are fully vaccinated to go there; but our dipstick government won't allow us to leave or return

Paul, Aged Care is Federal but they pay Victoria to supervise it. Andrews accepts no blame just said most deaths were in private aged care but with no information. Still a fact that 90% of all deaths are sheeted home to Andrews stuff up with a dodgy security company that he cannot remember anything about.
The rest of what you say is certainly true and now the idiot Gladys is following the universal line of destroying small business to protect 80+ year olds dying in due course.

Another 800 US university professors write that lockdowns, quarantines and travel bans undermine public trust, have large societal costs and disproportionately affect the most vulnerable segments in our community.

The European Journal of Clinical Investigations says that the net harms of lockdowns exceed the negatives of covid. Half the deaths reported in the UK are not ‘covid-caused’, but are related to the actual lockdowns - suicide, loss of medical checkups and monitoring. Lockdowns have caused enormous human cost.

Dear JF,

Yup, the current Covid test is pretty good but as with any diagnostic test the higher you set the sensitivity the more false positives you will get. Setting that sensitivity high given the ramifications of Covid escaping into the community is perfectly understandable. So what is your point?

Fauci has always put the health of the US citizenry above the whining snowflakes of the alt-right which is why he is so despised, even by Australians of that ilk who really don't have a stake in the game over there. Pitiful isn't it.

Dear mhaze,

Surprised you have the hide to show up on this topic given the death of a woman in her mid thirties from Covid but without any underlying health issues.

To borrow from your pathological misuse of statistics 10% of deaths from the recent outbreak are under 40.

What would you say to this woman's family if she had decided not to get a vaccine based on coming across your assurances on this site that she was perfectly safe?

Dear JBowyer,

You write: “Gladys is following the universal line of destroying small business to protect 80+ year olds dying in due course.”

What a fact denying idiotic thing to say. Besides the fact that many under 80s have succumbed to the disease it turns out that countries who have gone hard on their Covid response have managed to protect their economies far better than those that haven't. Our iron ore sector is a case in point.

SR firstly the 30 year old was 39 and died from blood clots in both legs according to her brother, how did that escape MSM? We know, they are lying scum!
You are wrong the bulk of death is to not just 80 year old but 90 even some 100+ in Victoria. Again MSM are in lock step to enrich their very rich owners at our expense. I cannot wait for the suggestion that "Build back better" uses all the Super funds you supporters have.
SR you love your Gulags and deport and shoot orders better and we all know why and it is not to help Australia.

SR assessed that I have engaged in a "pathological misuse of statistics ".

Given that we've seen how utterly innumerate as regards statistics SR is, it's hardly surprising that he'd think that. But he's not so innumerate as to fail to see that his own numbers are a misuse of statistics.

I've had to think this out and no these protestors are not selfish, boofheads maybe, but not selfish.

I mean they could die from COVID-19 for going against health advice during a COVID-19 epidemic and for not wearing masks.

They are also facing going to court (as per the NSW Government).

"Two men were charged with committing an act of cruelty upon an animal and failing to comply with public health orders, while one was also charged with assaulting a police officer. Fifty-seven people have already been charged and 90 infringement notices issued while a police strike force has been established to hunt down those involved by analysing footage from social media, CCTV and police-worn body cameras."

http://indaily.com.au/news/2021/07/25/selfish-boofheads-anger-over-protests-as-nsw-records-another-141-cases-two-deaths/

I don't know how that will turn out and honestly I don't know if it's worth bothering with, with so many dying in NSW due to COVID-19. If anything I could argue the boofheads are the NSW Government and they are just looking for people to go after!

Dear Nathan,

Yes, boofheads seems to be the case unless I fail to understand their motive (if indeed they have one).

This marching straight into police's arms is the most idiotic way to conduct a revolution and COVID is the least issue to base one's revolution on and get people on your side.

In fact, the COVID lockdown and restrictions are among the government's best policies and have popular support. They are not a problem in themselves - the root, long-term problem is the very existence of government.

Wisdom says that when the enemy is stronger one should lie low, wait, plan and quietly gather support. Look how futile the public demonstrations in Hong-Kong were and into what deep trouble it got them without a single benefit!

Pauliar,

Quarantine and aged care is constitutionally a federal responsibility. However, it can be delegated to the states if the states so wish. Morrison's error was in delegating it to the Fwit Andrews who not only refused federal help but then put union mates in charge of quarantine and deliberately shipped infected age care patients into the facilities.

Secondly, there is enough AZ vaccine in the country to stop this problem in its tracks, but once again anti-vaxxers such as Pauliar want to delay the rollout when the worst that could happen would be a dozen fatalities from AZ compared to the 820 death from the more lethal labor stupidity.

shonkyminister,

Do you make it up as you go, or are you reading it off some misinformation script prepared by some right-wing nutter, or is that you?

The vast majority of Covid-19 victims in Melbourne were living in private aged care (a federal responsibility) such as St Basil's, which was at the centre of the outbreak. They weren't "shipped in" to those facilities by Andrews as you are suggesting. As things got out of control and the bumbling Morrison sat of his hands and passed the buck, as he has done throughout the pandemic, Victoria had to seek federal permission to go into private age care facilities and do the best they could.

Next, the vaccine roll-out and the shambolic efforts of the Mad Medico Morrison, did he train under the Dangerous Doctor Donald, sure looks like it. Even Liberal members are admitting what a disaster the Federal government has made of vaccination. You say; "the worst that could happen would be a dozen fatalities from AZ" Yes I agree, but that is 12 dead young Australians who would have otherwise lived if a proper vaccineene program had been in place, with Pfizer or some other safer vaccineene in use for people under 60. How many deaths, it looks like 12 minimum, you and Morrison are prepared to accept to save his scrawny political hide?

Finnaly New South Wales today, not last year but today, with all they should have learned over the past 16 months. 14 needless deaths because the Liberals wanted to save the profits of their business cronies. Then there was The Hazzard and "Mr Limo Driver" a story of The Hazzards incomperdence in itself, he can put that down with his 'Ruby Princess' failure and 28 deaths. Six weeks into the pandemic and the Berejiklian mob have no control and no plan. Gladys appears on TV daily wringing her hands and crying "Pray to god that things get better."

Shonky, I'm in no way an anti-vaxxer, I want it to be done, and done correctly. I'll leave the anti vaxx thing to you.

Yuyutsu,

Thank you for the comments.

I don't think the protesters have achieved much at all. If anything they have just allowed a Government to further entrench their narrative into the minds of the public. One being fear.

Another is that is you cannot survive without a Parliament and Government.

I saw one woman on television question the protestors to if they were going to come out again and impact on lives due to the number of people contracting COVID-19 in NSW, but she wasn't questioning the NSW Government.

The protestors have also allowed a Government to blame someone else. That being the protestors themselves. I could though argue that Governments in Australia are at fault, not getting vaccinations out fast enough and with a poor rollout etc.

The biggest pair of "boofheads" in all this are Berejiklian and Morrison. You couldn't trust them to organize a fly feeding on a dog turd, they would even stuff that one up!

Twice as many people have died from the Vaccine as from the virus this year. Vaccines that do not stop us catching or passing on the virus it is protecting us from?
The 30 years old victim was 39 and died of blood clots in both legs which seems more like the vaccine than the disease.
In any case less than ten people have died of Covid but the final figure is now to be made a State secret and if you divulge it then arrests will follow.
Our political leaders are, across the board completely hopeless and cowardly. Our only hope is that when people start laughing at us brave Aussies wetting ourselves over the Chinese virus our politicians will do a 360.

Australia cases of Covid
Updated 1 Aug 2021 at 7:53 pm
Confirmed cases 33,909 Deaths 924
Note the percentage of deaths as per cases.

Vaccine administered 10,125,533
Deaths atributed to the vaccine = 86.
Note the percentage as per the vaccine administered.

It is clear JBowyer, cannot read factual data,

Pauliar / anti-vaxxer,

The fwit Dan Andrews refused federal help from Morrison for quarantining and was directly responsible for the 800 deaths that occurred. Also, I call bullsh1t on your claim that bubonic Dan had to ask for permission to go into the private age care centres as I have seen nothing to back that up.

90% of all covid deaths have occurred in labor states due to incompetence. Once again labor demands responsibility cocks it up, then tries to shift the blame.

P.S.

For anti-vaxxers such as JBowyer, SR and Pauliar, there have been more than 10 000 000 AZ vaccines administered in Aus with 87 cases of immune-related clotting and 6 deaths. That means that the chance of fatality from AZ is less than 0.0001%.

shonkyminister,

In the word of the Forums number one monkey, BOLLOCKS!

I can't speak for JB, nor would I wish to, but SR and myself are firm believers in safe vaccinations for all Australians. The fact the Mad Medico Morrison was caught with his pants down with the vaccine program is no surprise. The governments failure to secure a safe vaccine for under 60's, such as Pfizer is a fact. Between June and November 2020 whilst dozens of other nations were stitching up deals with Pfizer for a billion vaccine doses Morrison did nothing. Morrison put all his eggs in the AZ basket, believing with domestic production, and a successful roll-out program he would steal a march on Labor, call an early election and romp in, it all went pear shaped, and now we are in a shocking situation with the delta virus and the conservatives have no answers.

As a Trumpster did you take the Dangerous Doctor Donald's advice and have a swig of Pine-O-Clean to ward off the virus. Seems in America about 100, now dead, Trumpeter's did exactly that. Pine-O-Clean being 99.9% effective against germs, I suppose you were in the 0.1% lucky category.

I certainly believe in vaccines and in fact any treatment too but not when a treatment is called a vaccine. Invermectin and hydroxy whatsits were both touted as treatments by Trump. We then actually made them immediately illegal for use? Have you ever heard of a more stupid or petty action? These so-called vaccines are a handsome earner for big pharma and all its hangers on but sadly no cut for me.
The "Data" is being obscured at every turn and more people this year have died from the vaccine than the disease it is used against. Now what measurement do you use when the cure kills more than the disease. At no stage had natural immunity been publicised but fear is ramped up every hour. Back under the bed girls, sucking your thumbs and crying yourselves to sleep.

JBowyer, You are ill informed and ignorant of facts. If you have facts put them on the board. You claims are rediculous nonsense.

What the hell is it with you people? If these vaccines are effective, & are going to protect you from Covid, for gods sake have them yourself.

Once you & the rest of the population who believe in them are thus protected, what the hell does it matter to you if those of us who believe they are a dangerous money grabbing concoction don't have them. Why are you so hell bent on forcing everyone into having them if you believers are all protected. 45% of deaths in Israel are among fully vaccinated people, so don't give us that bunk it is worry about us taking up hospital space.

The way I see it you lot are really just concerned that you are wrong, & want to make sure you inflict any damage you suffer onto the rest of us more sensible, less cowardly folk.

We all know that new variants are much more likely to come from ineffective vaccination, but we won't hold that against you, or try to stop you following your judgement. In passing I find it just a bit ludicrous, you decry the government for getting the covid response all wrong, yet you believe & want us all to follow their advice on this muck. How about a bit of consistency.

Get a bit fair dinkum, follow your judgement by all means, but get the hell off our backs & let us follow ours.

Dear Hasbeen,

Unbelievable!

It is abundantly clear that vaccines have been an enormous success in Israel.

"But then the vaccination effort actually took hold. Israel dropped from a high of around 10,000 new daily cases in January to a seven-day average of as low as 10 last month. It began logging some days with zero deaths in April, and has recorded about 100 confirmed deaths in the last three months. If there is one country that reinforced the efficacy of the vaccines, it became Israel. And if there was one country that epitomized the sloppiness of the anti-vaccine movement, it, too, was Israel."

This in a country which has few restrictions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/19/vaccine-skeptics-zero-israel-again-some-reason/

I really don't know where you plucked the 45% figure from, out of your arse as usual I suspect, but given over 85% of the population are vaccinated even that is a good figure.

And mate I really don't give a toss if you want to follow the hard right Trumpian ideology and decline a vaccine. I am certainly not going to rail against stupidity, life is too short, but if the ignorant guff coming out of your gob ends up convincing others not to afford themselves of the clear protections provided by the vaccine, you should rightly get held to account.

So why not put a button in it, wrap yourself up in your denialism, be happy with your own ignorance, and stop inflicting your rubbish on the rest of us.

Mhaze,

<<I wouldn't go so far as to say they're freedom fighters but they were perhaps the last gasps of democratic freedoms in this country.>>

Last gasps? There are a bit over 25 million people living in Australia, so you might like to reconsider your position there.

Quite a number of these 25 million people can also vote at the next Federal election, likely to be May next year. No, elections in Australia are not perfect, but there is the opportunity based on how you vote to keep the government to account, particularly in the Senate.

Going out yelling and screaming, pushing your way into horses and the police etc is not going to achieve much at all if one is concerned about freedoms. People on this page may wish to come up with some alternatives, particularly during a COVID-19 epidemic.

Dear mhaze,

News of another under 50 succumbing to Covid.

In fact he was 20 with no underlying medical conditions.

Perhaps he too believed people like you that he wasn't in any serious danger from the disease.

I'm undecided whether there is a case for legally sanctioning those spreading this kind of misinformation like yourself but I am inclining that way.

Shame.

Steele,
Amen to that.
These fools are recklessly causing harm.

Invermectin and Hydroxychloroquine apparently were originally trialed as Corona treatments and were introduced into a few countries... Invermectin does treat some RNA viruses... Many agencies appear to be saying that they are not approapriate for whatever reason. Doesn't mean we can trust the agencies but sometimes you have to force yourself to trust someone. Yes the corona situation has been badly handled by some in government and bureaucracy. I believe that Scott Morrison did what he could to negotiate with the pharma companies- plainly we are coming from a position of weakness. I give Trump the benefit of the doubt- fog of war- he needs to create confidence- he tries to give the latest information that he has- as a matter of duty of care. Whatever he does it's a difficult call- it's important for a leader to act in a crises- he did that. The state governments wanted to fight him on the proposals he put forward to control the crisis- in the US state government from memory sometimes trumps the federal government- perhaps that's why Trump didn't try to exert more control. Whatever Trump does you can be sure the left will attack it.

http://www.nationalheraldindia.com/india/indian-origin-doctors-in-the-us-fight-charges-of-fake-research-based-on-fake-data
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=Sapan+Desai&iax=images&ia=images
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgisphere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapan_Desai

Yup,

The BLM activist that marched in the protest were selfish boofheads.

Shonkyminister,

Any comment on one of you favourite folk hero's former Liberal Party MP Craig Kelly and his support for those Boofheads?

SR
"I'm undecided whether there is a case for legally sanctioning those spreading this kind of misinformation like yourself but I am inclining that way".
That would be fabulous as it would expose a whole raft of politicians and idiot medicos to instant prosecution! You really should have a look at the half-arsed nonsense that was spewed out from day one. Don't give me that evolving knowledge nonsense, they either knew or were trying to bamboozle us!
This would fix the whole ship show of Covid!

More protests in Melbourne as a one week lock down is announced by the state premier, Dan Andrews, but what is the protest really for and what will come from it?

http://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-update-victoria-covid-lockdown-prompts-protests-in-melbourne-cbd/14e6f8b5-658d-49cd-b81b-aeb1f75cc105?ref=BP_RSS_ninenews_2_crowds-protest-victorian-lockdown-in-melbourne_050821

As I've said before.... here we go again.... rolling my eyes over as I type.

Pauliar,

I was unaware that Craig Kelly supported the BLM movement.

Dear NathanJ,

And do we think there might be a certain media organisation intent on stirring the pot in Victoria while treating NSW with kid gloves?

http://twitter.com/ozrock67/status/1423477789919825923/photo/1

It really is outrageous they still have a media licence.

I expect there will be lies on both sides of any conflict. The first casualty of war is truth.

SR,

Considering the age, the SMH and the ABC have essentially given pandemic Dan a free pass, your reaction is more than a little hypocritical.

shadowminister,

That isn't even a coherent point.

I showed a stark difference in the treatment of each by the Murdoch press. For anything you put as comparison you do need to show examples of where those three papers had done anything remotely similar.

SR,

What twaddle, what you have is two separate newspapers with separate journalists and editors focused on different issues in different states. One focused on the incompetent Labor government and one focused on the people of NSW.

Apples and oranges mate.

As for me "showing" that the three papers did not comment on an issue are you a moron?

shadowminister,

This has been only one example of the utterly biased reporting and editorials of the Murdoch press. That someone like you laps it up is understandable.

The question is when do you deem Gladys to be incompetent? Or would you be utterly incapable of it?

SR,

We realise that your cognitive faculties are slipping away, but most people can perfectly understand what I posted. I claimed that the old Fairfax masthead and the ABC have been largely uncritical of Dan Andrew's incompetence. How do I show that nothing happened? You are definitely losing the plot.

Secondly, two separate newspapers with separate editorial staff had different headlines at different times. One headline is support for the people of Sydney and NOT support for GB and the other one is an attack on the most incompetent Premiere wrt covid