I certainly believe in vaccines and in fact any treatment too but not when a treatment is called a vaccine. Invermectin and hydroxy whatsits were both touted as treatments by Trump. We then actually made them immediately illegal for use? Have you ever heard of a more stupid or petty action? These so-called vaccines are a handsome earner for big pharma and all its hangers on but sadly no cut for me.
The "Data" is being obscured at every turn and more people this year have died from the vaccine than the disease it is used against. Now what measurement do you use when the cure kills more than the disease. At no stage had natural immunity been publicised but fear is ramped up every hour. Back under the bed girls, sucking your thumbs and crying yourselves to sleep.

JBowyer, You are ill informed and ignorant of facts. If you have facts put them on the board. You claims are rediculous nonsense.

What the hell is it with you people? If these vaccines are effective, & are going to protect you from Covid, for gods sake have them yourself.

Once you & the rest of the population who believe in them are thus protected, what the hell does it matter to you if those of us who believe they are a dangerous money grabbing concoction don't have them. Why are you so hell bent on forcing everyone into having them if you believers are all protected. 45% of deaths in Israel are among fully vaccinated people, so don't give us that bunk it is worry about us taking up hospital space.

The way I see it you lot are really just concerned that you are wrong, & want to make sure you inflict any damage you suffer onto the rest of us more sensible, less cowardly folk.

We all know that new variants are much more likely to come from ineffective vaccination, but we won't hold that against you, or try to stop you following your judgement. In passing I find it just a bit ludicrous, you decry the government for getting the covid response all wrong, yet you believe & want us all to follow their advice on this muck. How about a bit of consistency.

Get a bit fair dinkum, follow your judgement by all means, but get the hell off our backs & let us follow ours.

Dear Hasbeen,

Unbelievable!

It is abundantly clear that vaccines have been an enormous success in Israel.

"But then the vaccination effort actually took hold. Israel dropped from a high of around 10,000 new daily cases in January to a seven-day average of as low as 10 last month. It began logging some days with zero deaths in April, and has recorded about 100 confirmed deaths in the last three months. If there is one country that reinforced the efficacy of the vaccines, it became Israel. And if there was one country that epitomized the sloppiness of the anti-vaccine movement, it, too, was Israel."

This in a country which has few restrictions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/19/vaccine-skeptics-zero-israel-again-some-reason/

I really don't know where you plucked the 45% figure from, out of your arse as usual I suspect, but given over 85% of the population are vaccinated even that is a good figure.

And mate I really don't give a toss if you want to follow the hard right Trumpian ideology and decline a vaccine. I am certainly not going to rail against stupidity, life is too short, but if the ignorant guff coming out of your gob ends up convincing others not to afford themselves of the clear protections provided by the vaccine, you should rightly get held to account.

So why not put a button in it, wrap yourself up in your denialism, be happy with your own ignorance, and stop inflicting your rubbish on the rest of us.

Mhaze,

<<I wouldn't go so far as to say they're freedom fighters but they were perhaps the last gasps of democratic freedoms in this country.>>

Last gasps? There are a bit over 25 million people living in Australia, so you might like to reconsider your position there.

Quite a number of these 25 million people can also vote at the next Federal election, likely to be May next year. No, elections in Australia are not perfect, but there is the opportunity based on how you vote to keep the government to account, particularly in the Senate.

Going out yelling and screaming, pushing your way into horses and the police etc is not going to achieve much at all if one is concerned about freedoms. People on this page may wish to come up with some alternatives, particularly during a COVID-19 epidemic.

Dear mhaze,

News of another under 50 succumbing to Covid.

In fact he was 20 with no underlying medical conditions.

Perhaps he too believed people like you that he wasn't in any serious danger from the disease.

I'm undecided whether there is a case for legally sanctioning those spreading this kind of misinformation like yourself but I am inclining that way.

Shame.