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She said the quiet bit out loud

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There were 5 deaths in Australia for under50s. There are approximately 16 million under50s in Australia (I’m rounding to make it easier for you). So to get to deaths rates per 100000 you need to divide by 160 (16 million/ 100000). So the death rate for under50s in Australia is 0.03 (5/160) per 100000.

Sooooo……
In your mathematically moronosity you thought you’d proven that “It translates to 17 per 100,000 [in Australia] while the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 3.5 per 100,000.”
Yet you proved the exact opposite. The death rate in Australia for under50s is .03 per 100000 and the flu death rate in the US is 1.17 per 100000.
So as I told you a year ago, if only you had the intellectual rigour to understand, in Australia, it’s just a bad flu season.
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There were 5 deaths in Australia for under50s. There are approximately 16 million under 50s in Australia (I’m rounding to make it easier for you to follow). So to get to deaths rates per 100000 you need to divide by 160 (16 million/ 100000). So the death rate for under50s in Australia is 0.03 (5/160) per 100000.

Sooooo……
In your mathematically moronosity you thought you’d proven that “It translates to 17 per 100,000 [in Australia] while the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 3.5 per 100,000.”
Yet you proved the exact opposite. The death rate in Australia for under50s is .03 per 100000 and the flu death rate in the US is 1.17 per 100000.
So as I told you a year ago, if only you had the intellectual rigour to understand, in Australia, it’s just a bad flu season.

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Re the CFR/IFR…I wrote back on 22/10/20 “Back from your self-imposed sabbatical following the CFR/IFR debacle I see. Enough time has passed I guess that you can now deny error and hope no one bothers checking....the more things change.”. SOP for SR. Make an error, piss off then come back denying everything.
We’ll probably see the same as regards the above.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 8 July 2021 8:43:26 AM
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That NSW has handled more quarantine cases than all other states combined yet has managed to handle the breakouts with fewer lockdowns and fatalities means that NSW's handling of covid is the gold standard, and Victoria's is the worst.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 8 July 2021 10:10:59 AM
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Dear mhaze,

Lol.

No what I did was entirely legitimate according to your own standards.

Some may say I have been flippant with the figures, but we both know that is not true. You are perfectly legitimate in saying that because we have lost only 5 lives of those under 50 to Covid in this country therefore there is zero risk to that cohort.

Others might unkindly point out that was only on 30,000 cases, but not me any longer.

You see there is no such thing as baseless extrapolations in your world, nor mine now. It is all perfectly acceptable.

If you can't beat them join them as the saying goes.

In our world now it doesn't matter that the 2018-19 saw around 35,000,000 flu cases with around 34,000 deaths while the total Covid cases in the US has reached a similar figure but with 600,000 fatalities.

But as you rightly pointed out “So as I told you a year ago, if only you had the intellectual rigour to understand, in Australia, it’s just a bad flu season.”

Some may note you use to say that regarding Covid in general, but now you are just talking about 'in Australia'. But we are both going to ignore those naysayers.

Some might be as unkind to say you have consistently and spectacularly gotten it wrong so many times re Covid but rest assured I will no longer be one of them.

Would you care to go over the rest of what I put to you and further enlighten me as to where I got it so wrong.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 8 July 2021 12:00:03 PM
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"Would you care to go over the rest of what I put to you and further enlighten me as to where I got it so wrong."

Clearly the maths of this is beyond your understanding. Where did you get it wrong?

You said :"It translates to 17 per 100,000 [in Australia] while the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 3.5 per 100,000.”

When in fact the death rate in Australia was 0.03 per 100000. So you were wrong by 56000% ie the number you thought you'd correctly calculated was 566 times greater than the facts.

Equally you thought the flu death rate in the US was 3.5/100000 when it was 1.17/100000. Only out by 300% there and for you that's a new break-through in accuracy.

I note that you open the post with "lol". But I don't think this level of innumeracy is a laughing matter. I'd be thoroughly embarrassed not giggling about it.

"you have consistently and spectacularly gotten it wrong so many times re Covid "

You keep asserting that, but unfortunately for your assertions you have yet to find examples. I know that in your innumeracy you've sometimes misunderstood my logic and thought me wrong, but, well, you were wrong.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 8 July 2021 12:34:51 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Isn't this fun.

I said: "One thing is certain though, even working off the 5 deaths figure in 30,000 Australia cases it is many times worst than the ordinary flu. It translates to 17 per 100,000 while the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 3.5 per 100,000."

You have rightly pulled me up saying: "When in fact the death rate in Australia was 0.03 per 100000. So you were wrong by 56000% ie the number you thought you'd correctly calculated was 566 times greater than the facts."

So it stands to reason when I said "cases" I obviously didn't mean "cases" at all. How terribly silly of me. I must have meant something entirely different altogether. What a whacker I must be.

And how badly did I stuff up the math. To think I imagined that extrapolating 5 deaths over 30,000 cases (oops sorry, slip of the tongue) by 3.333 to get a figure of 17 for 100,000 (cases, dang, gotta stop). What a wally.

I deserve to be hung, drawn and quartered for making such a rudimentary mistake. Whew. Thanks for showing me the light. And I was out by 56000% you say. Crikey. that's a lot isn't it. Well you have certainly shown me you superior mathematics skills. I am very grateful so thank you.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 8 July 2021 4:52:26 PM
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Come off it SM,

The Liberals in NSW are showing their true colours, trying to put the profits of their business buddies before the health of the states citizens. What a stuff up. 100's are infected, 1,000's are in isolation and 1,000,000's trapped in lockdown. The totally incompetent Health Minister should have been sacked when he waved the passengers off the 'Ruby Princess' resulting in the deaths of 28 people. There was ScumO' today trying to justify his shambolic vaccination roll-out, whilst Gladys was in a flap not knowing what to do.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 8 July 2021 7:55:19 PM
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