Do be careful SR. One of these days you might slip up & say something that is not straight out of the far left propaganda play book.

If you ever did, the shock may kill some of the less immune.

Dear Hasbeen,

How is it going old cock?

Must be good since you have decided to but in with some pearls of wisdom.

Pray tell old boy, what comment from me in any way resembles something out of the "far left propaganda play book"?

You lot carry on like pork chops about sticking to the facts and figures, but when your arguments are shown to be dross by someone quoting relevant facts and figures you call it far left propaganda.

Pretty childish stuff.

If they could get everyone in the whole entire world to just stay home for two weeks this whole thing would be over...

I wouldn't take the jab if they offered me 100k

SR,

So you have become an anti-vaxxer? Not a huge surprise! While bleating about the slow vaccine rollout you are running a scare campaign against the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The AZ vaccine was chosen by the UK for 3 main reasons:
1 it was easy to mass produce and thus far cheaper and more available
2 it could be stored in a domestic freezer and did not need -70C which enabled a wide reach of vaccination centers.
3 while it was slightly less effective than other vaccines in preventing infection it was nearly 100% effective in preventing hospitalisation or death.

The chance of developing blood clots is 1000th of the chance experienced by using oral contraceptives and as far as I know all deaths have been of persons with co morbidity issues.

SR wrote:"Well that got a laugh.

So official data from the UK Health Ministry is made up data now?"

Nowhere did I say, suggest or intimate that the UK data was made up. So, yes, it did get a laugh. But poor old SR doesn't know who's being laughed at.

The UK data has passing relevance to Australia. The facts are that in Australia 0.5% of those who died of or with the virus were under 50 and all of them had significant other health issues. SR doesn't like that data because it makes a nonsense of his assertions, so he goes searching the world to find data he prefers. But that's the way SR always works - reach the conclusion and then go looking for some data to give the conclusions a veneer of validity.

The facts are that the virus is harmless in Australia as regards healthy people under 50. The government and the authorities know this but have sought to gloss over that fact because they want to con the under-50s into getting a vaccine that will do them no real good but may be, under some currently poorly understood circumstances, dangerous. The Qld CMO screwed up by telling the truth on that and the authorities have been scrambling ever since to try to get back on narrative. Still they must be gratified that the nation is full of SR's who can't and won't look passed the propaganda to see the facts.

Dear Armchair Critic,

You write: “I wouldn't take the jab if they offered me 100k”

And I defend you right to make deeply ill-informed decisions. As long as you and others like you do not impede us achieving herd immunity I am happy to accept free-loaders like yourself profiting from the short term risk myself and others face in getting vaccinated. When the border restrictions do finally come down I think you might be singing a different tune.

Dear mhaze,

This really is getting drearily repetitive. You say:

“The facts are that the virus is harmless in Australia as regards healthy people under 50.”

What self serving tripe.

That was only achieved because of the very lockdown rules you deeply reject.

I know your line probably gets a run at your local men's shed but it is just dross.

Time to retire it.

I had written:

“Tell that to the over 700 under 50s who lost their lives due to Covid in the UK in January of this year.
http://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-reported-sars-cov-2-deaths-in-england/covid-19-confirmed-deaths-in-england-report That was with a million recorded cases for that month so about a 1 in 1500 chance of dying from the disease.”

You attempted to retort with:

“Squirm as much as you want but she's saying what the data is saying. This virus doesn't affect healthy people under 50.
You might want the truth to be different but the data doesn't care what you want.”

I replied quite rightly:

“I have placed data in front of you to show the risk from Covid is many times that of the risk from the vaccine in the under 50 group as a cohort.”

You snipped back:

“Don't believe me...believe the CMO. Or do the SR thing and just make up your own data.”

As the only data I presented was from the UK briefing, this is indeed what you have claimed is made up.

So yes you did: “suggest or intimate that the UK data was made up”.

Grow up.