Dear Armchair Critic,

The vaccines do offer a form of immunity see my post above.

Your ingratitude was predicated on the following misunderstanding: "How do I benefit if you get the jab? Tell me, so I can see it your way. "How do we get herd immunity, if the vaccine doesn't make one immune?"

Now that you know differently I trust you will extend the requested gratitude.

Claims by Morrison that the NSW Berejiklian Government is the "Gold Standard" of Covid control have been blown out of the water, with Covid running riot in Sydney. Just as he waved Covid cases off the 'Ruby Princess' leading to 28 deaths, NSW Health Minister The Hazzard cocked up the movement of Covid infected people from Sydney Airport to hotel quanentean. Enlisting a private company whose driver, Mr Limo, had no PPE or vaccination a disaster was bound to happen. Despite these incompetent cock-ups by The Hazzard's department, a disaster could have been avoided with decisive action from Berejiklian, but unlike the quick action taken by the Palaszczuk government in Queensland with a recent outbreak there, a short sharp lockdown, Berejiklian sat on her hands and the virus has taken off in Sydney. Poor Gladys gold crown is looking rather rusty these days.

Dropped in the see the same old name calling folks at play.
German IFR data, age-based: http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-11127-7/tables/1
We have either locking-down entire populations, or, gov't facilitated self-sequestration of vulnerable individuals, their vaccination and and subsequent community re-entry, while herd-immunity builds (through infection or vaccination) within the non-sequestered group. Surely the latter is a better way to run a pandemic.

It's not too late to change tack, as the vulnerable near fully vaccination. But no, let's keep grandkids fear of killing their grand-parents at the forefront of the public health message. To hell with the mental health of business-owners and their employees losing their shirts. Not much working from home for them, unlike public servants.

Hi Paul1405,

Indeed.

This was Victoria's response going from cases being found to lockdown in 3 days. No mucking around or hand wringing.

"On 24 May in northern Melbourne, 4 cases of COVID-19 in the community were reported. Another 5 community cases, for a total of 9, were reported on 25 May."

"By 27 May the Victorian outbreak had risen to 26 cases. There were over 150 exposure sites across Melbourne, and 11,000 contacts had been linked through contact tracing to the outbreak. As a result of the growing outbreak Victoria entered its fourth lockdown, statewide, as of 11:59 pm on 27 May, initially for seven days until 11:59pm on Thursday 3 June, but the lockdown was later extended another 7 days."

The Victorian outbreak resulted in around 80 cases.

In NSW an outbreak was recorded in Bondi on the 18th of June but it wasn't until the 28th that Gladys was forced to go to a lockdown in Sydney. NSW now has 347 active locally acquired Covid cases and it aint over by a long shot.

"On 18 June in NSW, masks were again made mandatory on public transport in Greater Sydney from 4pm that day. A COVID-19 cluster in Sydneys' Eastern Suburbs had grown to 4 cases."

"On 25 June in NSW, after 22 new cases of the delta variant brought infections linked to the Bondi cluster to 65 total, a lockdown was announced for four Sydney LGAs."
wikipedia

Gold Star indeed.

Hi Steele,

I think Gladys was held to ransom by business interests, who believe they have "suffered" enough during the pandemic with city wide lockdowns. The NSW government thought a minimalist approach with controls placed on a small area, in this case four LGA's, would be sufficient to rein in the virus, it was not. Where Brisbane with a short sharp four day lockdown seems to have worked again, NSW is sitting on a powder keg due to government inaction at the start.

What about Mr Limo.

Miss Sally Pisscock from the Channel 6 'Horror News Hour' was able to find the location of Mr Limo. Turned up unannounced at his front door. Miss Pisscock was able to thrust a microphone through the open door and demand; "Get our here you gutter slime, I've got viewers Donna and Dwayne from Mt Druitt who want to pelt you with rotten fruit on national TV, this is in the public interest, and my ratings!"...Miss Pisscock went on; "It sounds like there's little gutter slimes in the house, I can hear them screaming. Get em' on camera, nothing boosts rating like a screaming kid!"..."Over to you Tracy in the studio"..... Tracy in a calm voice, "Shocking and disturbing for our viewers."

Strap yourself in SR, this is gunna be brutal. (I keep warning you to avoid numbers and you keep coming back for more embarrassment. Why is that?)

1. Why is it that you keep wanting to refer to UK and US data when referring to Australia. Somehow you’ve convinced yourself that the data from the other side of the world is more relevant to Australia than Australian data. It reminds of the time back at the beginning of the scare when Morrison had to admit that our predictions were based on models about the UK using Chinese data.
Of course, I know why you want to ignore Australian data and use stuff from the other side of the world….The Aussie stuff doesn’t tell the story you want and with SR it’s always a case of reach the conclusion and then go looking for the data.

2. SR wrote:” while the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 3.5 per 100,000.”
You got 3.5 by adding up the deaths for the under50s from the data you linked. But that’s utterly incorrect. It’s beyond moronic. Think of it like this. If you have 100000 under 4s you get 1.3 deaths. If you have 100000 5-17s you get 0.4 deaths. If you have 100000 18-49s you get 1.8 deaths. So yes, you get 3.5 deaths but not out of 100000 but out of 300000. Have I lost you yet? So to get back to deaths per 100000 you need to divide by 3. So to fix your maths the correct wording Is “the flu deaths of under 50s in the US sits at 1.17 per 100,000.”

3. But that is deaths per 100000 of the entire population. You then, in your mathematically ignorant way want to compare that to the proportion of deaths of under50s to the total deaths. That’s not comparing apples to apples, it’s not even comparing apples to oranges. It’s more like comparing apples to kidney stones.

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