Paul said;
Its bad enough the way the Trumpster leadership in America has carried on with ridiculous claims

A judge in Pennslyvania has stopped the state from certifying the
ballot count. The TV item did not say what the grounds were or for
how long and under what conditions.
Might do a google search on it.

Paul; yes here it is in a Pittsburgh newspaper. Seems to be about
Pennsylvania making illegal rule changers or something.
Don't follow it all that closely but I remember that was one of the
things that Trump was complaining about.
http://tinyurl.com/y3m3t46l

Dear Paul,

«Yuyutsu, in the long run it will be a government decision»

Yes, this is always the case, those who wield power can do whatever they like, so nothing we write or say here on OLO or elsewhere makes a difference.

Nevertheless, we here discuss what ought to be, what is right and what is wrong, independently of what will actually happen, at least this is what I do.

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Dear Nathan,

«Where does one draw the line? Should business have the free choice to cut off whoever they want?»

The line needs to be drawn between private and public bodies.

A "business" at the bottom line is ultimately made of people, nothing but people. "Business" as such has no free will, no feelings, no power of determination and no reason to be compassionate for, but those people who run the business do and ought to have the same freedom as people who want to travel.
So a business that receives no public funds or privileges, ought to be free to choose whom they serve - that certainly includes bakers who should be able to refuse service to same-sex couples.

People ought to be able to leave Australia at any time, but airlines need not provide them with traveling services. So long as people, vaccinated or otherwise, are not forcefully prevented from sailing their own boats, swimming out the ocean, taking off in their own hot-air balloon or climbing aboard foreign ships or aircraft that accept them, I would say that this is OK.

As for what I would personally do if I owned an airline, I would allow unvaccinated people to fly so long as I am confident that they cannot infect other passengers, for example if they continue to reside in an astronaut-like self-containing suit throughout the flight, or if they already had COVID-19 and blood tests show that they have an appropriate level of anti-bodies.

Well Bazz, we know what a reprobate Trump is. No American President can be compared to Hitler in his final days, but Trump comes close. Not even the scumbag Nixon as he tried to protect himself from the crimes of Watergate was as reprehensible as Trump has been since November 3rd. Sure, courts will hold things up for a time, while the Trump lawyers argue their frivolous case, but in the end Trumps has no argument, and the outcome will see Biden become the legitimate President January 20th 2021.

Hi Individual,

I enjoyed your Saturday comment, it was from a died-in-the-wool paranoid:

" .... The crooks have the evidence & they're not going to let anyone see it ! ....."

And you have evidence of that ? No ? By definition ? Here's another valuable quote: "He who asserts, must demonstrate."

And another one: "Otherwise, blow it out your arse."

You need to see a shrink quick-smart :)

Joe

Pseudo-Mouth,

My God you have a foul mouth.

So it's time for another name change, And guess what, it's back to being Foul-Mouth.

It's your foul mouth that gives you away as being someone who is not well educated. Other than the fact that you lied to me about having a BA and a BA(Hons).

PS But one thing I do praise you for as a member of Forum's pro-China camp is that you are definitely not as dim as you sim.