Foxy,

You cannot negotiate with the Chinese.

It's all ONE WAY - THEIR WAY.

The warning signs are there that the Chinese want to gobble up as much territory as they can get their hands on and the reason they are being aggressive towards Australia is that they do not want anyone interfering in their territorial expansion especially into the indo-Pacific region, which is exactly what Australia has been doing of late.

Did you see the movie The Darkest Hour when Churchill (Gary Oldman) leaned across the table and yelled to Chamberlain "You can't talk to a tiger when you have your head in it's mouth!"

I think China is deliberately picking a fight with Australia to give it a reason to invade us. The invasion would be swift and a push-over, one week from start to finish. With the purpose of sending a message to the US, Japan, India, South Korea and Taiwan not to stand in the way of Chinese imperialist expansion.

Plus, conquering Australia will provide an opportunity to transmigrate hundreds of millions of its Chinese to Australia and provide a source of natural resources needed for continued expansion.

I suppose being in the pro-China camp you see this as something good.

"... while free trade agreements are all very well and good, they’re never free of danger with countries that are not free." (Allan RM Jones, chief of staff and advisor in the Howard Government).

And the Chinese Communist Party envisions itself atop a new hierarchical global order in which the world acquiesces to China’s worldview, and China's economic growth has been translated into military power posing a direct threat to us. Australian iron ore is making a powerful blue-water PLA navy. China’s mercantilism weakens its trading partners’ economies and social fabric through cheap capital, energy and labour, much of it illegitimate — for example, hidden and undeclared subsidies, stealing or forcing intellectual property transfers, or even via massive smuggling and market manipulation. China robs companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, and then replaces them in the market. Whether it’s barley, coal or wine, China doesn’t hesitate to use its newfound economic power to bully Australia, with the evidence suggesting Australia’s overweighted China export market has allowed its national security to be compromised.

"China has become (and) will remain an economic and strategic threat so long as it remains a one-party totalitarian state".

ttbn,

You forgot to mention that the enemy is already inside the gate.

Misopinionated,

Are you assuming that the 2 % of the Australian population who are of mainland Chinese origin, are all pro-authoritarian-state ? And that that 2 % will somehow take over all of Australia ? That we should all give up now ?

In Norway after the War, I believe, they shot Quisling, the pro-Nazi prime minister who opened the doors to Germany. Don't be so quick, you and Ttbn, to write Australians off, including Chinese-Australians.

Joe

Foul-Mouth,

There you go trying to put words in my mouth again in an attempt to win an argument.

If I had my way I would cancel the visas of all non-Australian Chinese (or Chinese non-Australians if you prefer) and send them packing.

Because when things turn really sour and get out of hand who is going to look after them?

Alexander Downer, steeped in diplomacy and politics, says that is up to China to repair the relationship with Australia; they declared the trade war on us. It's been a "very long time" since any foreign affairs spokesperson has treated another country like the Chinese variety had treated Australia.