Foxy,
pointless because it hits a point that you & David f can't answer or rather can't afford to for fear of the Domino effect !

Trump has announced that Sudan is now also signing up to his peace initiative in regards to Israel. More and more Muslim nations are now making peace with the Jewish state as a result of the insights from Trump and the efforts of Jared Krushner.

We also see the Saudis increasingly criticising the Palestinian leadership as they start to prepare their people to make peace with Israel.

As a result, peace breaks out all over. Iran is sidelined and boxed in. Turkey's Ottoman play is no more.

And the US starts to pull troops out of the Middle East and Afghanistan.

When Trump won, we were told that he was a warmonger who would get the US involved in endless war. Not a few in this forum talked of him starting WW3.

But the facts are that he is the greatest peacemaker the US has seen in two generations. The US has not started or been involved in a single new war under Trump's leadership. Consequently, the US is pulling troops back home from places as diverse as Germany and Iraq.

Its an historic achievement that the usual partisans are determined to misunderstand or ignore. But history won't ignore it.

Its a turning point that may be squandered by the next leader but will stand forever as evidence that the so-called expert advise on US Middle-eastern policy has been wrong for the past 30 years.

Only one man saw that and had the strength and ability to correct it.

foxy votes on personality not policy, she has become so obsessed with personality she cannot examine policy.

She states:"You stated that Trump represents the "Christian values
of America". By saying that the only "real" Americans are white and
Christian? That may be your version of "Christian values". It's
not those of Christ's teachings."

She shows her ignorance of American Christianity. The Churches I see in America about 12% of their members are non white. Example SBN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Nudmm7ha4

http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/demographics-of-christianity

Josephus,
I think it's just that she even sleeps with her one-way rose-coloured glasses on !

Yes, I am a bit cynical.

I too want the Democrats to win, but I also recognise that the Democrats, like Labor here, are very good at promising too much.

The rise of Trump shows this is not possible, so I will be interested to see what unravels over next four years, assuming democrats do well.

The man the goons love to hate yesterday pulled off another international peace deal between Sudan and Israel.