You would have to be an ignoramus not to know who you are voting for by now.

neither of them disappointed or impressed me.

Murdoch's CONSERVATIVE The Australian: "...BIDEN IS A CLEAR WINNER."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/joe-biden-emerges-unscathed-from-us-presidential-debate/news-story/766f6e60c46313dd36918ee24d6d45d3

"POINTS WIN IN NASHVILLE MOVES BIDEN CLOSER TO THE OVAL OFFICE"

Joe Biden is a step closer to the White House after emerging unscathed from the final presidential debate with Donald Trump less than two weeks before the election.

The only relevant measure of who won or lost this debate is how it impacts the final frenetic stages of this campaign.

On that measure Biden is a clear winner. He was calm and considered, with only the odd ‘senior’ moment, as he rebuffed with surprising effectiveness Trump’s attacks on his family’s business dealings.

Trump had clearly decided that his best chance of a game-changing moment in this campaign was to question Biden’s alleged business involvement with his son Hunter in Ukraine and China.

This is a murky but still unfolding story which has been largely ignored by the liberal US media and obsessed over by the conservative US media.

But Trump’s push to focus on claims that the Biden family was making money in Ukraine and China while he was vice president were far too vague to cut through to ordinary voters.

Indeed, Biden had a solid retort by pointing out that the president was demanding information about Biden’s finances when Trump refuses to release his own tax records.

While Trump failed to land these blows, Biden hit the president with deadly precision on his mismanagement of the coronavirus pandemic. Biden made the simple but powerful claim that any president who presided over the deaths of more than 220,000 Americans had forfeited the right to be president.

Biden also scored hits on the president over his truly absurd claim that America is ‘turning the corner’ on the virus when infections have now spiked up to more than 65,000 a day from 35,000 just over a month ago. When Trump said Americans are “learning to live with it”, Biden retorted that “people are learning to die with it”.

...[Trump] appeared to be less well prepared than Biden and performed particularly poorly on the key issue of healthcare."

Hi Pete,

I think that the Trump supporters will continue to
support the man no matter what. The key question is
whether Biden was able to influence and of the
fence-sitters or undecided voters? I guess we shall
have to wait and see. Most commentators agree that
Trump stumbled during this debate and Biden came
out as the more prepared and suitable leader.

Of course that won't matter unless everyone votes.

The following link tries to explain - can America
survive the re-election of Donald Trump?

The outlook does not look good!

http://theconversation.com/can-america-survive-the-re-election-of-donald-trump-148239

support the man no matter what.
Foxy,
It's what he stands for is what people support. Just as the progressives support the excesses they get & don't want to reduce no matter what so the less well off can get a better deal !
What it boils down to is draining the swamp vs re-stocking the swamp !

Individual,

He's not draining the swamp he's creating a sewer
for everyone apart from himself, his rich friends,
family and corporations and organizations from whom he
can continue to make money. As he's admitted - basically
he's a business man - who only cares about one thing -
making money - for HIM!

Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

very true, biden said what all the lefties wanted to hear.

And Trump tried to undermine Biden any way he could.

Wow, if that is a surprise, please wake me up.

But Foxy seems excited