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Trump calls US war dead

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Dear Joe,

You've said it!

You can't imagine the immensity of the F!*k we
don't give!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 September 2020 5:50:06 PM
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Thanks Foxy (I think),

Only 51 days (our time) to go ! At current rates, that means more than forty thousand more dead from Trumpf's incompetence and bungling of the prompt handling of this epidemic, his shutting his eyes to the horror of nasty things like disease and death, on top of the current 194,000. So somewhere around 234,000 by Nov 3.

And then inaction between the election and inauguration of Joe Biden, another 78 days. That might mean another seventy thousand deaths before Biden takes charge and, presumably, in the first week, imposes stricter and more co-ordinated procedures.

So Biden will inherit around 300,000 deaths from Trumpf's Folly. More American deaths than in any War.

I only hope Biden works much more closely with the States instead of constantly passing the buck like this covidiot.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 14 September 2020 6:31:32 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Well progress at walking frame pace, but progress none the less.

So when you said “At the outset, WHO was giving a fatality rate of 3.4%. It was this number, which is now shown to be completely wrong, that was originally fed into models to achieve the early dire death numbers.” you clearly misspoke. WHO clearly identified it as the CFR and you have provided no evidence they took it for the IFR.

Given herd immunity is likely to require 60% of the population being infected, and even allowing for the fact that the nursing home toll is likely skewing the figures, at a rough estimate as CFR of even 3% would mean around 120,000 Victorians losing their lives if we let this thing have its head and many more suffering serious debilitating conditions requiring months if not years of rehabilitation.

Is this what you are advocating? Even if you don't accept the figures what number do you deem acceptable.

Dear Hasbeen,

Yes please. Leave Victoria to us Victorians mate. Don't need you northerners dragging down the highest life expectancy figures in the nation.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3302.0.55.001
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 14 September 2020 7:19:45 PM
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Donald Trump Policy
– originalist judges,
– pro-life policies,
– a stronger military,
– a free-market economic system,
– lower taxes,
– fewer government regulations,
– strong support for Israel,
– clearheaded recognition of the economic, military, and information threat of China
– a high value placed on human freedom,
– personal accountability for committing crimes,
– good jobs and school choice as the best way to help the poor,
– a strong border wall and a secure border, followed by a comprehensive reform of our immigration system,
– careful extraction and clean use of carbon-based fuels (coal, oil, natural gas),
– freedom of conscience (government should not force Christians to use their artistic skills to convey a message of approval of same-sex marriage or to use their medical skills to perform an abortion, or to use their pharmacies as the distribution point for drugs that cause abortion),
– racial inequalities in income and quality of education should primarily be solved by
– greater availability of tax-supported school choice in low-income neighborhoods,
– economic growth resulting in more and better jobs, and
– an increase in safety through an increase in police presence in high crime neighborhoods
– medical marijuana should be allowed (with a prescription from a doctor) but recreational marijuana should be prohibited, and
– restrooms, locker rooms, and single-gender sports teams should be restricted to people of one biological sex or the other.

Biden Policies
On the other hand, I fail to see how an evangelical Christian who believes in the moral values of the Bible could support the increasingly far-left Democratic Party. How could Christian in good conscience support a party that promotes laws and policies that
Cont.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 14 September 2020 8:29:37 PM
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allow abortion up to the moment of birth,
– authorize the use of our tax money to pay for abortions and gender reassignment surgery,
– cripple our economy with ever-increasing government control and taxes,
– further cripple the economy with expensive Green New Deal energy regulations,
– increase unemployment,
– weaken our military in the face of increased aggressiveness by China,
– promote a Jimmy Carter-like foreign policy of appeasement,
– abandon Israel to fend for itself,
– nullify the Senate filibuster rule (both Obama and Biden have recently spoken about this) so that all legislation can be passed with only 50 senators plus the vice president casting the tie-breaking vote,
– support the rising influence of judges who are not constrained by the original meaning of the words of the Constitution or of the laws, perhaps even adding six additional seats to the Supreme Court in order to be able to give the court a new 10-5 majority of such justices (this could be done with control of both the House, the Senate, and the presidency)
– grant statehood to both Washington DC and Puerto Rico, thus adding four more Democrats to the U.S. Senate (I have heard three US senators already predict that the Democrats would do this if they had the votes)
– support draconian laws that compel an artistic professional or a professional counselor to affirm the validity of same-sex marriage even when that is contrary to the professional person’s conscience,
– reinstate the Obama-era guidelines that required schools to allow biological males who claim to be transgender females to use girls’ bathrooms, locker rooms, and showers (the guidelines were canceled by Trump),
– allow biological males to compete in women’s sports, setting new statewide records in women’s track events and other sports
– pass multiple new, extremely strict green energy laws that will massively increase energy costs and therefore will also increase the cost of everything that is made or transported with the use of energy,
cont
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 14 September 2020 8:30:45 PM
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Biden
– seek to defund the police (to be precise, Biden has said he favors “redirecting” some police funding to other programs, which is a partial “defunding” of police, which will lead predictably to a substantial increase in crime),
– use violence and intimidation to nullify freedom of speech (in practice) for those who disagree with them politically,
– support open borders and sanctuary cities in defiance of the law, and that
– promote a complete federal government takeover of our healthcare system.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 14 September 2020 8:31:12 PM
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