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We're all in this together

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ttbn,

So glad that you recognise people's entitlements to
raise subjects for discussion. Perhaps you shall now
change your opinion about my raising the discussion
on China? And who knows you may even stop calling
people trolls - when they express an opinion or ask
a valid question - which is another entitlement to
which we are all - entitled.

There's a good chap.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 July 2020 12:17:39 PM
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Hi Altrav, the only thing we can really compare this pandemic with is the so called "Spanish " flu of 1918. Without access to antibiotics or modern medicine they got on top of it by quarantining and using masks. It killed up to 3 percent of the world population, most of these deaths were in countries and areas which did not quarantine and did not use masks.
Posted by jimmy2shoes, Saturday, 11 July 2020 1:07:15 PM
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please tell us what
would you do if you were in the PM's shoes?
Foxy,
I'd not hesitate for a moment to reduce Public Service salaries (incl. of course politicians) by 15 % until such time all is back to what could be considered normal.
This would also prove a perfect time to introduce Flat Tax & national Service !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 11 July 2020 1:26:16 PM
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Jimmy2shoes, I can understand your reasoning, but unfortunately had they not come up with an anti-biotic or as you say, modern medicines, the death toll would have been much higher, as it will be here as well, till they find a vaccine or a new medicine to stop this one too.
I concur with your account of quarantine and face masks, as I said in my posting.
But my overarching point is that, even with all the precautions, without the vaccine, those people who are susceptible to the virus would eventually die, unless they remained isolated until the threat and the carriers had ALL died, including and especially the infected people.
But the problem does not stop there, because they have now found that even though you do not test positive you are still a carrier, and therefore can still infect, and even suddenly fall ill yourself.
So we have these "sleepers" who are still a threat.
What do we do about them, because while they are allowed to move freely amongst the people, the threat is still there, and could break out all over again at any time down the line at some point, without notice or warning?
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 11 July 2020 1:46:26 PM
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Morrison has never been a conservative, and has now proven his economic socialism, wrecking the economy. Over the next two years, there will be enough trials and tribulations resulting from his 'save-a-few-lives-at-any-cost' panic to see the end of him (if the Liberal Party doesn't see sense and relieve him first).

Oh, and he is going to take another holiday in a situation far worse than the bushfires. And, no. He is not entitled to a holiday 'like everyone else'. Everyone else doesn't have the responsibility of running a country and have 25 million people depending on him to do it. He should not have been lambasted for being on leave BEFORE the bushfires, but he should not be excused for buggering off in the middle of our biggest crisis in 100 years. His victims - those he plunged into closure and unemployment - can't forget their troubles and go on holiday.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 11 July 2020 2:13:37 PM
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"what would you do if you were in the PM's shoes?"

This has little to do with the PM. These decisions are being made by the state leaders.

Dearie me, Foxy. You really do struggle with this whole federation of states notion, don't you? Both as regards here and the US.

As to what I'd do, I've discussed that earlier - as far back as early April.... http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9129#301593

Here I'm pointing out that those making the decisions are not being asked to contribute to those decisions. They are demanding sacrifice for the general good, without making any sacrifice themselves.

And if they were, through some artificial mechanism, forced to sacrifice, then their views and decision might be very different.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 11 July 2020 2:18:03 PM
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