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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:06:28 AM
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(Continued …) . Now, NNS, you say that black people are victims of discrimination because they commit violence and crime. You infer that it’s their own fault if they are discriminated against – and you add : “what I'm suggesting is to find a solution through stronger family foundations”. What you don’t seem to realise, NNS is that for that to happen, there has to be a major change in American society, in particular, in the attitude of white Americans to their black compatriots, the descendants of those innocent African men, women and children that their ancestors enslaved for their own, exclusive economic advantage for over three centuries, culminating in the American Civil War. The breakdown in the family structure of the Afro-American community has its roots in the historic cultural disruption of which they are the innocent victims and the tenacious, ingrown racial prejudices that relegate them, for the most part, as second-class citizens confined to living in ghettos and poverty in the major cities with little or no future perspectives. That environment has to change if they are to have any chance at all of building “stronger family foundations”. The “violence and crime” is simply the expression of their frustration and powerlessness, their inability to exercise effective control over their lives and the complete lack of perspective. In response to your invitation “if you have another suggestion I'm all ears”, it occurs to me that as you live in the US, perhaps you could contact one of the following organisations that offer assistance to the Afro-American community : http://www.blacknews.com/directory/black_african_american_organizations.shtml . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:12:46 AM
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Banjo,
Obviously you live in the past hurts, In western society slavery is currently banned. SR, go to Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 13 June 2020 10:02:34 AM This information came via Glen Beck. The protests in America have three levels of protestors: 1. Those concerned for the ill treatment of Blacks. 2. Those there for the opportunity for looting 3. Antifa and Greens and Muslim politicians to fuel emotion and hate of Police, Western economies and Laws. These are funded by Soros. Here is another from Glen Beck: British Conservative and Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage announced Thursday he'll be leaving his job on BBC Radio after the comments he made on a British morning show resulted in mass controversy. Speaking on "Good Morning Britain" with Piers Morgan and a Black Lives Matter activist, Farage compared the actions of violent protesters removing a statue in Bristol to those of the Taliban in the Middle East. He joins Glenn to explain why that comparison is a perfect one, why BLM is a dangerous, Marxist organization, and how a new cultural revolution is quickly taking over the UK. Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 14 June 2020 12:31:07 PM
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This was shown on the Glen Beck show in the response to defund Police; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kVbrMpI7V4&feature=emb_title Black on Black murders, never: Glorify the Criminals against Police. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-w7fDuFJw Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 14 June 2020 12:49:22 PM
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"is Trump positioning himself in such a way than when defeat comes to deny that defeat, and try to hold on to power"
People who spent the last 4 years rejecting the results of the last election and trying to overturn the result, say that it would be bad if Trump doesn't accept the results of the next election. Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 June 2020 12:54:48 PM
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Hi Banjo,
" ...... innocent African men, women and children were hunted down like wild animals in Africa, ..... " You are aware that Africans were usually farmers, cultivators, who had been kidnapped by armed men from hostile groups, very often Muslim ? Entire villages were captured and the occupants taken to the coast to the slave depots, and then shipped to the Americas. Some groups (even now, in 2020, in countries like Mauretania) were considered to be hereditary slaves, to be removed and/or made to work as they reached suitable age. So the process of enslavement was a bit more sinister and systematic. Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 14 June 2020 1:13:36 PM
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Dear Not_Now.Soon,
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« What I'm saying is that violence and crime contributes to discrimination … Looking at which came first the chicken or the egg doesn't change the situation that eggs come from chickens, as well as chickens come from eggs »
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The chicken-and-egg dilemma does not apply to slavery, NNS, nor does it apply to the racial discrimination that slavery generated and continues to perpetuate despite abolition 155 years ago.
I’m sure you know that what came first was that innocent African men, women and children were hunted down like wild animals in Africa, put in chains and shipped to the United States where they were sold at auctions as slaves to work in the cotton fields.
If that was not violence, I don’t know what was – and I’m sure you know who started it and why. Those are the historic facts. There is no doubt about it. No chicken-and-egg dilemma.
Slaves were considered property, and they were property because they were black. Their status as property was enforced by violence. They did not ask to go to the US. They did not go there willingly. They were captured and sent there forcefully, in chains. Torn away from their homes and families, never to see them again.
One of the worst conditions that enslaved people had to live under was the constant threat of sale. They were often punished for not working fast enough, for being late getting to the fields, for defying authority, for running away, and for no good reason at all. The punishment included whipping, torture, mutilation, imprisonment, and being sold away from the plantation. Some were even murdered.
African women had to endure the threat and the practice of sexual exploitation. There were no safeguards to protect them from being sexually abused and raped or to be used as long-term concubines by masters and overseers. The abuse was widespread, as the men with authority took advantage of their situation. Slave men, for their part, were often powerless to protect the women they loved.
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