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Is The United States About To Implode?

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My favourite Trump posters has him saying..”they’re not after me, they’re after you..I’m just in the way”.
http://publicfigure.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/trump-tweet-meme-1.jpg
If he’s no longer in the way, it’s all over.
And not just for fly-over America, but for the whole democratic experiment. California is already closer to a feudal society that we’d like, but it’s merely the fore-runner of the post-Trump world.

A defeat for Trump is a victory for the whole of the state apparatus. They’ve spent 4 years trying to defeat and neuter his policies and administration. That they’ve failed to-date is a miracle. But if they get ‘their’ man back in, all that will be unravelled. It will prove elections no longer matter and that the elite run and own the country and all those in it.

Of course China, Russia, Iran, NKorea are all routing for a Biden win. The only reason they haven’t already capitulated to the Trump pressure is the hope that they, aided by the US ‘resistance’, can overthrow him and get back to normality- the normality that suits their purposes.
Trump loses – Xi win.

Indeed I don’t think its overstating things to say that this election is about Western Civilisation. Ever since the rise of liberal democracy, it’s been assailed by an array of enemies. Each one has been defeated. But China and its allies are the most formidable of the lot and if China does become the world hegemon this century, western civilisation will wither away to be replaced by a society filled with Xinjiang re-education camps. It’s that important. A Biden victory, a victory for the Chinese apologists will go a long way to ensuring inevitable rise of China.

I’m pessimistic because Trump’s enemies realise what’s at stake and will do anything to defeat him. I’m hopeful that 60+ million Americans will vote for their own salvation.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 5 June 2020 1:51:42 PM
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Josephus,

Trump's 108,000 deaths of Americans vs. Morrison's barely one hundred deaths of Australians. That's your idea of 'adept' ? A leader who sucks up to Kim Jong-On and Putin ? Who sells out the Kurds, our only true allies in the Middle east ? That's your idea of 'without fear or favour' ?

The creature is a moron, as Mattis rightly remarked (or was it McMaster ? Or Tilleson ? Or Kelly ? Or Sean Scully ?). But he's your moron, your creature, your Frankenstein's monster, you're stuck with him.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 5 June 2020 2:00:50 PM
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Why is it that whenever there is a hiccup in the US, that left whinge cockroaches scuttle out from below their rocks to declare that either:

a Capitalism is finished,
b The US is in decline and will never recover,
c China will overtake the US and be the sole superpower.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 5 June 2020 2:18:42 PM
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SM,

Hmmmm ........ perhaps from a certain ideological slant, 108,000 deaths is a hiccup.

I fear that there are more hiccups to come yet in the US before November.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 5 June 2020 2:21:51 PM
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LM2,

In the EU there have been roughly 200 000 deaths with a population a little bigger than that of the US, is the EU about to implode?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 5 June 2020 2:58:39 PM
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Well Folks, you have to realise that the US
President is a thrice-married, swindly, profane,
materialistic, self-styled playboy, who has
appealed mainly to the more-fringe elements of
Christianity in the US.

They're a rag-tag group of prospective gospelers
(like his pastor and "spiritual adviser" - Paula
White, a televangelist who promises her donors
their own personal angel - and thinks God is in the
White House). The Christian dominionists (who
believe that America's laws should be founded explicitly
on biblical ones - including stoning homosexuals) and
charismatic or Pentecostal outliers (like Frank Amedia,
the Trump campaign's "liaison for Christian policy"
who once claimed to have raised an ant from the dead).

Considering their extreme views - these folk have an
alarming number of followers, however, without the Evangelical
bloc - no Republican candidate could ever hope to have a
path to the Presidency. Hence Trump holding the Bible outside
a church is symbolic - and appeals to his base of support.

Therefore we have to realise that -
the upcoming US Presidential election
is not going to be between Republicans and Democrats.
It's going to be between
"good" and "evil". Between "righteousness" and
"unrighteousness".

And Trump's supporters here on this forum are of course -
"righteous!". As we all know.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 5 June 2020 3:48:51 PM
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